“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

No conscious decisions were ever really clearly made, because Ruburt felt that ideally (underlined), if he were giving himself true freedom and being true to all his abilities, he would and should be performing in such a manner. He would naturally want to be at least on the most intelligent of television shows, for example, or speak to those groups for which he had some respect. [...]

[...] In response, he thought about a gadget that would automatically allow him to speak without holding the phone for so long—this in response to Prentice’s latest project. Tam hinted some time ago that additional ads and advertising to that effect would probably take place. [...]

[...] Prentice-Hall was bound to be confused about our motives and intents, and also there was the latest evidence that the uncertainty or resistance would lead to aggravated symptoms on Jane’s part. [...]

(For several days now I’d been thinking about a remark of Seth’s in one of the earliest of this group of sessions, to the effect that Jane’s symptoms would get worse before they got better as we tried to cope with them. [...]

[...] Then, I was to imagine my consciousness growing brighter and brighter, filling the room like light; I would find that all of my abilities would soon return. [...]

(I would now like to describe two effects, one of Jane’s and one of mine, that took place almost simultaneously some few minutes before the session began. [...]

[...] Now, with memory of almost-forgotten episodes returning, I knew that this brilliant, shimmering pattern could spread so that as I looked at an object it would be obliterated, even while I still had peripheral vision.

[...] Following the analogy (aneleogy), if consciousness were (werse) like (light) a light that belonged (belenge) to you, even when you switched it off, there would be a sort of twilight, but not darkness (darkners).

(“Now, if you had all been really paying attention to what I have been saying for some time about the simultaneous nature of time and existence, then you would have known that the theory of evolution is as beautiful a tale as the theory of biblical creation. [...] Without the consciousness, the matter would not be there in the universe, floating around, waiting for another component to give it reality, consciousness, existence, or song.”

[...] I believe now that they are among those usually present at unconscious levels; but in order to expand the potentials for the creative act as much as possible, I would like to see others learn to cultivate such visions and perceptions on a deliberate, conscious basis. It seems to me the benefits would be many. [...]

[...] The fragment elements directed outward by you as a species also add of course to your physical reality, for without the fine balance maintained, and without this cooperation, your particular kind of environment would not be possible.

[...] Your sense of identity, freedom, power, and love would be immeasurably enhanced if you could understand that what you are does not end at the boundaries of your skin, but continues outward through the physical environment that seems to be impersonal, or not-self.

[...] If this were the case your walls would fall away, since intellectually you understand their rather dubious nature. Since feeling is so often the cohesive with which mind builds, it is feeling itself which must be changed if you would find freedom from your particular plane of existence at your particular time. [...] Since feeling is a cohesive, to change it completely would hardly be of any advantage since your world of present existence would fall apart.

(“Abstract” art done in this manner would be an attempt to appeal, to generate an emotional response—in other words action on our plane—on a subconscious level. This would enable the emotional response so generated to radiate its warmth through all levels of our being. [...]

[...] There is an exchange of sorts between the mental and the physical without which, for example, color would not exist. [...]

[...] would be thought translated into more positive action.

(After I’d told her about the insurance thing, and Jane had told me about her increased motions, she added that she now felt that everything would be fine, and that she would recover. [...]

[...] I read her two letters from female scientists in California that, I thought, would cheer her a great deal, since they both stressed the value of her work. [...]

[...] After the session I told Jane that he’d said more than he realized — that in the case of predictions it would be wise of us to remind ourselves that his sense of time is indeed far different than ours, that much more time could be involved on our parts than on his. [...]

[...] While it is true that medical technology has many serious defects, it is also true that many people believe in the medical profession to such a degree that it would be nearly impossible for them to survive in good health without it.

“Yet,” she continued, “second thoughts make us question old assumptions: Granted the existence of counterparts to begin with, certainly their common goals, though differently expressed, would bring them together when possible. And, according to Seth, the same would apply to any group. So beneath such gatherings there would be hidden dynamics, psychological activities that could explain the behavior of crowds, political parties, and so forth….”

[...] And Norma, of course, would turn all of this around and examine it from her own very independent viewpoint.

(How different human relations would be, I thought after all of our guests had left, if the counterpart thesis could gain a more general acceptance on conscious levels.)

[...] A few remarks having to do with the main reason that your suggestions were not as effective as you would have liked.

[...] You were afraid that it was, or that unwittingly the symptoms would bring this about. [...]

[...] If you wanted to stay home and paint all day badly enough, then it would hamper your hand motions at work. [...]

[...] If you wanted to leave your job badly enough and could not consciously decide to do so, then it would force the situation for you in the most obvious way possible.

If I could sing that beautifully, I would sing for you through our classes. [...] But you would not bless me the following morning... [...]

[...] Now I would assume that this same thing applies to a station or vocation...”)

[...] I guess the question I’m asking is: am I really more interested in the certain possibilities of status, and that would not be the positive way of looking at things... [...]

[...] Taking it over into occupations, then, I don’t know how it would be ... [...]

(As I told Jane today, a study of the affair would be fascinating in many ways, particularly as it would have to involve Fred’s behavior and beliefs as associated with the Seth material. [...]

[...] Every so often whoever was driving the car would start it up so the heater would go on. [...]

[...] The steadily increased thyroid medication hasn’t seemed to influence the dozing at all, though we’d expected that it would in the beginning. [...]

[...] It is true he needs quite constant reassurance on that point, however—for letting go is something he would not do to any extent earlier in the same fashion. [...]

If I could sing that beautifully, I would sing for you through our classes. [...] But you would not bless me the following morning—of that I am sure. [...]

[...] Now I would assume that this same thing applies to a station or vocation... [...]

([Theodore: ]“But the point is—I guess the question I’m asking is: Am I really more interested in the certain possibilities of status, and that would not be the positive way of looking at things—or should I be seeing that man within a framework of, just as we were talking about health as just being a stepping stone, should I be seeing this man with a viewpoint towards what this can mean for helping other people be part of a constructive arrangement?”)

[...] Taking it over into occupations, then, I don’t know how it would be—advances an occupation, I guess, is the closest.”

[...] During those years Marie was in her late 20’s and early 30’s, and already incapacitated by arthritis; and, to quote Seth from a session held in 1964, she had “… often spoken vehemently of Ruburt’s birth being a source of disease, and pain, that is of her arthritis … If Ruburt’s mother had it to do over, she would not have the child — and the child hidden within the adult still feels that the mother actually has the power, even now, to force the child back into the womb and refuse to deliver it …”

[...] The Platonic, idealized inner world would ultimately result in a dead one, for in it the models for all exteriorizations were seen as already completed — finished and perfect.

[...] Existence is wise and compassionate, so in certain terms consciousness, knowing itself as man, sent future extensions of itself out into the time scheme that man would know, and lovingly planted signposts for itself to follow “later.”

[...] I would like to change your ideas of human nature. [...]

[...] It, if followed, would do him good however. It would be most beneficial for him to do some sketching at the riverbanks. [...]

(I had prepared the usual double test envelope earlier in the day, but doubted it would be used if Jane was not in a good mood for the session. [...]

[...] If he had taken more time off completely, he would not be in his present position.

[...] It would be preferable if he did change his environment during this period, physically, by walking outdoors or visiting.

[...] As session time approached she had no idea of what her procedure would be—whether she would sit, stand, pace, open or close her eyes, etc. She was still worried also about the time element when her eyes were closed, and we agreed that I would ask for breaks if it seemed the monologues might carry past the customary half-hour limit.

If the outer ego would be content to work on an equal basis with its inner counterpart, then many severe difficulties would be sidestepped.

[...] And I would like to mention here that I am not Jane’s animus.

The outer ego, being of later development, is jealous of its position and would have all knowledge at its fingertips. [...]

[...] Without identities action would be meaningless, for there would be nothing upon which action could act. [...]

Action, having of itself, and because of its nature, formed identity, now also because of its nature would seem to destroy identity, since action must involve change. And any change would seem to threaten identity.

[...] And yet without the termination, identity would cease to exist, for consciousness without action would cease to be conscious.

[...] For consciousness and existence do not exist because of delicate balances, so much as they are made possible by lacks of balances, so richly creative there would be no reality as it is understood to be, if balance were ever maintained.

[...] The spontaneous self happens to be basically more powerful and far more sensible than the ego, and would never stand for this development. It would doubtless cause some sort of an explosion however, in order to prevent any such occurrence.

It would be of help along these lines for Ruburt to scrub his rug, as for him rugs have a certain significance in this respect, and particularly air the bedding. [...]

The plan evolved as to dinners and outings was only adopted by Ruburt as an emergency measure, but in your particular circumstances a modified version of this plan would serve as a steady and constant safety measure. [...]

[...] He would not buy clothes that you could afford, but wore others given to him by others, as if he did not feel he deserved his own.

[...] They are not really the greatest business-oriented house, either—but houses who are would have exerted pressures upon you that would far outstrip or outweigh any disadvantages coming from Prentice.

[...] And it would help if you tried to look at human behavior sometimes from a slightly more expansive view (chiding).

[...] On the other hand, when you look at your fellows, try to see them as they are in all respects—as you would, say, a group of individual animals. [...]

[...] I thought it a good sign, actually, since these young people would one day be playing roles in society; at least, I thought, they’d have been exposed to what we thought were good ideas in their formative years.

(Pause.) The human body would be used in earth’s great husbandry as, from it, dying and decaying new forms would arise. [...]

[...] The species’ sense of curiosity would not allow it to stay in any home territory for long,⁶ and so the sense of intimacy was purposely broken. It would become highly important again, however, when the planet was populated extensively, as it is now — only the original feeling of home area has to be extended over the face of the earth. [...]

In other words, your accepted concepts of selfhood would disappear if you ever allowed any significant subjective experience to intrude. [...]

You carry within you, however, the deep knowledge of experience that in your terms would be prior, yet in your cells and your own deeper mind such information is current.

[...] Instead, we would ask Seth if he could “tune in” on the Gallaghers during their vacation. During their trip we would substitute this experiment for our envelope tests. [...]

I didn’t know if it would work or not, but I reset the alarm for thirty minutes later, then I lay back down and told myself I would return to the same place. [...]

[...] I never knew when we would have such a test, and I never saw the envelope before a session. Rob would hand an envelope to me in the middle of a session. [...]

[...] So one morning that same week I lay down, closed my eyes, and gave myself the suggestion that I would find Peg and Bill.

[...] They would keep a record of the chosen objects for a month, without telling us what they were, then we would compare the list with Seth’s data after the experiment ended. [...]

[...] Jane and I mentioned that we would like Seth to say something on both points in tonight’s session.

(We had some reservations however about trying it now, but decided to see what Seth would say. [...]

[...] He realized therefore, when the incident occurred, how it would end. [...]

[...] Otherwise your free will would have no meaning in a physical framework, for the number of choices available would be so multitudinous that you could not make up your mind to act within time. With all the opportunities of creativity, and with your own greater knowledge instantly available, you would be swamped by so many stimuli that you literally could not physically respond, and so your particular kinds of civilization and science and art could not have been accomplished—and regardless of their flaws they are magnificent accomplishments, unique products of the reasoning mind.

Without the reasoning mind the artist would have no need to paint, for the immediacy of his mental vision would be so instant and blinding, so mentally accomplished, that there would be no need to try any physical rendition of it. [...]

As soon as she delivered the first phrase of the first full sentence for Chapter 6, I recalled that she’d accurately quoted it to me this afternoon, saying that that was the way Seth would start the session.)

[...] If it were, you would “know,” and hence have no need to question.