“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] A war, in your terms, can be practically experienced as a murderous disaster, a triumph of savagery—or as a sublime victory of the human spirit over evil.

(Long pause, then very intently:) We will return to the subject of war later on. [...]

[...] And so that despite you and your concepts of value, creativity always emerges triumphant, and those that are killed in one war come back to fight against war the next time, and hopefully, you teach yourselves some lessons. [...]

War.

Your wars are of course excess, poorly controlled emotional energy. In many cases you have been saved from wars by such things as earthquakes, tornadoes of a vast nature, and other physical catastrophes. [...]

Because of the fact that bad weather has often saved man from wars in the very early stages of human development, man misconstrued this to mean that sacrifice to the elements could save him from calamities of this kind. [...]

[...] They often occur also in wartime on the part of a populace [that] is against a given war in which [its] country is involved.

[...] Sometimes such epidemics are eventually responsible for the overthrow of governments, the loss of wars.

[...] If they did not die of the disease, they may have ‘fallen prey’ to an accident, or died in a war, or in a natural disaster.

Certain bloodlines, in your terms, were extinguished because of your beliefs in Christianity, as people were killed in your holy wars. (Pause.) Your beliefs have directed who should go to war and who should not, who should live and who should die, who should be educated and who should not, who should be isolated from society and who should not—all matters directly touching upon the survival of certain families throughout history, and therefore affecting the species as a whole.

[...] In the world that you recognize there are also wars and rumors of wars, prophets of destruction. [...]

([Sue:] “I asked for solutions to this in the dream state, and got a lot of World War II stuff. [...]

[...] You were using the war connection however as a symbol for battle between the sexes.

Sound was utilized far more effectively, not only for healing and in wars, but also to power vehicles of locomotion, and to bring about the movement of physical matter. [...]

[...] When Jane spoke the word “wars,” above, her tone of voice and her facial expression had a “wouldn’t you know it” connotation.)

(“Also with a past war connection.” [...] All three of us have had military service, Bill and me in World War Two on active duty. Bill is quite a historian on the subject of war, and often discusses it. [...]

[...] Also with a past war connection. [...]

[...] “I remember when the war ended that summer,” she said, meaning Japan’s surrender to end World War II on August 14. [...]

[...] Those of you who do not believe in war have not experienced it. [...]

The petty wars, even those still to be fought, are but dim memories, once vital but lost as nightmares in greater awakenings. [...]

New paragraph: Your wars are fought, lost or won in the dream world first of all, and your physical rendition of history follows the thin line of only one series of probabilities. To you a given war was either lost or won by a particular side. [...]

[...] It does not represent the entire lifetime of your species or the catalogue of physical activities, or begin to tell the story of physical creatures, their civilizations, wars, joys, technologies, or triumphs. [...]

[...] Martha’s husband, Venice’s brother, lost his life as a result of war wounds. [...]

[...] Martha’s husband, Florence’s brother, lost his life as a result of war wounds. [...]

“When every young man refuses to go to war, you will have peace. [...] As long as one person commits acts of violence for the sake of peace, you will have war. Unfortunately it is difficult to imagine that all the young men in all of the countries will refuse to go to war at the same time. [...]

Again, the end does not justify the means — so no amount of war is ever going to produce a meaningful peace.

[...] A war won here, with a treaty, is not won somewhere else, and there is a different treaty. Even wars seemingly won here are not nearly as clear-cut as would appear; you make history as you go along. [...]

[...] (Pause.) Both killer and victim in a war, for instance, are caught up in the same kind of passion, but the passion is not aggressive. [...]

(Pause.) Sometimes you think of suicide as ignominious and passive, but of war as aggressive and powerful. [...]