“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(I will indicate below where we believe the two Saratoga visits are referred to in the envelope data. The first visit was in August 1963, the second was in the summer of 1964. On both occasions Jane and I were on our way to York Beach, Maine, on vacation; both visits to York Beach played a part in these sessions, and exact dates can be found in appropriate sessions. See Session 9 in Volume 1.

(The connection between the envelope object and our two visits to Mother Goldsmith’s is strong enough, in that Jane and I ate there both years. We saw the same hostess both times also—a girl Jane went to school with in Saratoga. We did not see Nate Goldsmith or his wife on the first visit, and the reasons we did not see either of them on our second visit are given in our data interpretations.

(“A connection with a spade.” On our second visit, in 1964, Jane and I were told that Nate Goldsmith had died. We do not know just when he died, but believe it was after our first visit. Jane did not know the Goldsmiths intimately, merely to speak to. Also on the 1964 visit we were told the restaurant had been, or was being, sold.

Ruburt’s own experience, in maintaining his own identity independently, while also allowing me to speak through him, will be to his benefit. It is, you see, quite possible for an individual in his dream travels to visit other planetary systems, of the past, present or future. Such visits are usually spontaneous and fragmentary.

On Wednesday I must have picked up on Peg’s visit earlier that same evening; her visit to Lib’s, her specific interest in the paintings. [...]

I completely forgot our discussion until last night, Friday, when the Gallaghers [our dear friends, Peg and Bill] visited. [...]

If she hadn’t mentioned her visit to Lib’s, and the paintings, Rob and I never would have realized that anything beyond usual perception was operating in our little discussion. [...]

[...] Wednesday was the night Peg G. visited Lib’s, and saw the paintings.

(Then as I was fixing the tray for lunch, Peggy Gallagher, our friend who is a reporter for the Elmira Star-Gazette, visited and stayed through most of the meal. I didn’t feel like talking, but we had a good visit after we loosened up a little. At the same time, I couldn’t help wondering why Peggy had chosen this day to visit us, of all days. [...]

One point I wanted to mention: Peggy Gallagher telepathically picked up your moods, and felt the impetus to visit.

(4:38 p.m. As noted, I’d wondered myself about the timing of Peggy’s visit. [...]

[...] As stated Jane and I visited Enfield Glen, or Robert Treman State Park, three times—July 12 for Tuesday, July 14 for Thursday, and July 16 for Saturday. The envelope object contained the ticket for the visit of July 12. We also obtained like objects for the other two visits, and Seth evidently uses this fact to lead to related connections. The above data concerns our visit to Enfield Glen on Saturday, July 16.

(We visited the park three times during that week, but I kept the date for the ticket straight by attaching a penciled slip to it. As it happens some of the envelope data arises out of our two subsequent visits. The first visit was on Tuesday, July 12, the second on Thursday, July 14, and the third on Saturday, July 16.

(“A connection with a flower or flowers”, immediately reminded Jane of our visits to Enfield Glen, or Robert Treman State Park. [...] I remember our specifically commenting on the flowers there, on all our visits. [...]

[...] However, remember that the object came from our visit of Tuesday July 12, whereas the gathering was held on Saturday July 16. The link here being that a parking ticket was also obtained, and saved by me, during Saturday’s visit; this ticket was the same except for the serial number as the ticket used as object.

Margaret’s visit was somewhat involved, as was your visit to Joe’s room.

(4:49 p.m. Joe discussed his fears with me last night when I visited him, but I didn’t get a chance to tell Jane about them until I saw her in 330 this afternoon. In other words, she picked up Joe’s fears herself, unless Margaret might have referred to them when she visited Jane last night after I’d left.

(At the close of yesterday’s session I wrote that I visited Joe Bumbalo after leaving Jane at 7:00 p.m. While I was up in his room, 522, Margaret went down to say hello to Jane. [...]

[...] A visit to a third or second floor.

[...] We visited the Seamen’s Institute [Museum].”)

([The Gallaghers:] “The Metropolitan, we visited it. [...]

[...] On the visit to Story Book Land with the two children, Barbara also visited the display for Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves. [...]

(As stated on page 21, Barbara did take her own daughter, Lisa, to visit Story Book Land, the subject of the postcard sent to us by Barbara, and used as the object in the 69th experiment. [...]

(One thing that led to our decision to cut down the visits was that I felt that often Jane seemed worse after the nurses left than she was before they arrived, although her being stirred up for a couple of hours may have contributed to my feeling. [...] One of them, Eleanor, visited Jane the last two Mondays and Tuesdays. She is now on vacation, and we trust that the reduced schedule will do away with Eleanor’s visits. [...]

(Roe Cantando, head of the local Upjohn service, visited a couple of days after I called. [...] [Roe also brought a student nurse on her previous visit, by the way.]

[...] It is a wise idea to cut down your nurses’ visitations. Those visitations, however, show you in quite clear light that the medical profession’s idea of preventive medicine can often lead precisely to the conditions they seemingly wish to avoid. [...]

[...] Our idea is to soon cut down the visits to two a week, then one....

In other terms, you could say that an entity visits all planes simultaneously, as it is possible for you to visit a certain state, county, and city at one time. You might also visit the states of sorrow and joy almost simultaneously, and experience both emotions in heightened form because of the almost immediate contrast between them.

[...] It is oftentimes practical that entities or their various personalities visit one plane before another. This does not necessarily mean that one plane must be visited before another. [...]

[...] When sciences progress on various planes, then visitations become less accidental and more planned. [...]

(For the envelope test tonight I used my appointment card for my visit to the dentist earlier this month. As Jane did last time she visited Dr. Colucci in May 1965, I put myself in a trance state as an experiment, and was very comfortable. [...]

[...] Jane said she thought this referred to an episode when she should have visited the dentist, Dr. Colucci, but did not. [...] Instead of seeing a dentist she visited our doctor next door; he put her on a series of antibiotics that lasted for four days, on into the month of June 1964. [...]

There were several causes for them, and these reactions were triggered by the visit of your friend Mark last evening.

[...] He knew that it would be quite an occasion for this young man to visit informally, so to speak, with the mayor, though he would vehemently deny it; and yet Ruburt did not want the man in the house, therefore denying him such a privilege at least in thought.

(The “blue” middle finger on Jane’s left hand was better, and has been slowly improving a bit each day, yet the visit to see Dr. Sobel was a disaster as far as Jane was concerned. [...]

(The irony of the whole affair is that during the visit I thought he’d helped Jane by advocating doing nothing about the finger at the time—which was what we wanted also. [...]

(During the visit, after he examined the finger, Dr. S. seemed to me at least a bit surprised that Dr. Wilworth had ruled out the possibility of a blood clot; because of its sudden onset I gathered Dr. S. thought this was a possibility. [...]

[...] Again, I thought the visit at least preserved the status quo for us, since I could see that more and more Jane was turning against the idea of preventative drug treatment for vasculitis, say, or anything else. [...]

[...] Eleanor Maggi, the nurse, visits tomorrow, and we plan to tell her to make her visits on Tuesday and Friday next week. [...] But a major reason for our reducing the nurses’ visits is to get rid of the constant negative suggestions they unwittingly broadcast, all in the name of trying to be helpful. [...]

Now: we will call this a very brief Seth visit—for which there is no charge (with much humor, referring no doubt to the bill from St. Joseph’s). [...]

[...] End of visit—no bill need be expected (with more humor). [...]

[...] Jane now said that her reference yesterday to an unexpected visitor probably referred to Peggy G’s visit today. [...] Of course: Peggy had not only visited unexpectedly, but she’d brought a letter from a fan who wanted to visit us from New York City. [...]

(Jane ate very well—her appetite is much better now—and after lunch Peggy Gallagher visited. She brought with her a letter from a fan who wants to visit. [...]

[...] He also visited her. [...]

In like manner, the visit of your young friend will also be beneficial (Peter Murtough, from Chula Vista, CA) and the visit of your Boston friend (Pat Norelli). [...]

The painting and the two visits, taken together, will be as effective as the lost vacation. You are, I believe (meaning me) about ready for a new breakthrough in your own work, and the boy’s visit may bring this about more quickly.

[...] On both of your parts, the boy’s visit will show that you have once again enough energy to use elsewhere.

[...] You are so “unrealistic” that it seems to you that you visit old houses, long ago torn down, or that you travel in exotic foreign cities that you have actually never visited.

So, often such dreams are like programmed dramas, in that you clothe such visitations in familiar props. [...] An out-of-body experience into another level of reality becomes a visit to heaven, for example; or the heretofore-unrecognized voice of your own greater identity becomes the voice of God, or a spaceman or prophet.

[...] You usually interpret their visitations, however, in terms of your own station of reality. [...]

(“Visited a nightclub, called Drumbeat, that was green. [...]

(“Could be a restaurant-club we visited, strange name, Charley Charley La Fin’s.”)

[...] 1461 means nothing, but we [Gallaghers] visited a water tower, circular, surrounded by flowers, we had to climb what is called the Queen’s staircase [steps] to get there. [...]

[...] To the right just before this last left hand turn and hill is a fairly low building where I believe our friends eat, or at least they visit here.

(Eleanor Friede visited Saturday and Sunday, as planned, and went over parts of Emir with Jane. [...] We expect his visit to be pleasant.

[...] When they visited the author, however, he was optimistic and brusque. [...]

[...] At certain levels—not all—you resented Eleanor’s visit, and Tam’s, because you wanted so to begin new projects. [...]

The difficulty after your dentist visit was partially natural enough, but exaggerated for these reasons, so that the discomfort gave you an acceptable reason for resting—while still being virtuous in your own eyes.

(“Were Jane’s attempts to deal with the doctor’s visit this morning effective in countering the effects of the visit?”)

Ruburt’s reaction to the doctor’s visit this morning does indeed show the hold that old beliefs can have, and the panicky feelings they can arouse. [...]

[...] I wanted to know if Jane’s own efforts penetrated her psyche as deeply as the feelings she picked up from the doctor’s visit—if she neutralized those negative reactions.”)

(As we talked a most interesting development took place: Peggy and Bill Gallagher visited at 7:10. [...] Their visit was most unusual at night, and we hadn’t seen Bill at the hospital for months. They left after an exchange of the usual hospital-type visit and conversation at 7:36.

[...] At the same time, I was afraid the excitement of the visit would interfere with Jane resuming the session. [...]

You may visit your Miss Callahan, for example, as Ruburt has done. You may visit others now dead in those terms, with whom you were once acquainted. Generally speaking, such visits will involve you however with one main environment, so you could do that indefinitely, and we will want you to have more experience than that. (In Book 1, see Session 28 re Miss Callahan.)

[...] I will give you additional data on those environments that you visit, so that your experiences are paralleled by session discussions throughout the years. [...]

There are various kinds of environments that you should visit. [...]