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[...] Spontaneity knows its own order, and freely comes into order. Years ago, before the psychic experience, he was not for example psychically spontaneous to any great degree. [...] He would through the years begin to approve of spontaneity in one more area—spontaneity in class, for example—or with Sumari poetry, or in finally approving his own psychic writings. [...]

[...] Ruburt then used and enjoyed his spontaneity, and has been developing it along the lines of his understanding. It is not, as it may seem, that he had something of spontaneity and lost it.

[...] The notes Ruburt wrote yesterday are extremely important, with their emphasis upon my old “the spontaneous self is the guardian,” and added to that “from which your very life springs.” You can will your spontaneity to express itself, even as you can will it not to. [...]

[...] Man’s great exuberant spontaneity has never been allowed its full sweep as a result.

This session you read (the 367th) applied mostly to Ruburt, yet you also have what I will call an overly conscientious self in battle with the spontaneous self (a fact I’m well aware of, and had discussed with Jane before tonight’s session). You have actually grown somewhat more spontaneous. [...]

No one can completely do that for anyone else, of course, so you have your own struggles with spontaneity. Ruburt’s spontaneous self was by far the most active, and so his defenses against it, as the overly conscientious self, were more obvious than yours.

[...] When you fell in love with Ruburt, a part of you was appalled, for it felt it must hold itself ever aloof—and in those days Ruburt’s spontaneous self often met a response from your overly conscientious self, so that you appeared cold to him, and in repelling his spontaneity you were of course frightened to reveal your own.

[...] They are in a certain fashion overly conscientious, and they fear spontaneity lest it be less than perfect. [...]

(10:42.) Great talent requires great spontaneity. [...] We do not trust ourselves to spontaneously develop our own technique. Spontaneity knows its own order. Order springs from spontaneity, and spontaneity from order.

(10:05.) Now: it is obvious to you that Ruburt uses his symptoms to control his spontaneity, to mete it out, so to speak. [...] And precisely when you come to a point of sudden spontaneity in work, then you use the matter of distractions to slow you down. You seize upon them because you do not trust your own spontaneity in your work.

(10:20.) “I can be free and spontaneous in my painting. [...]

[...] This also impedes your spontaneity in painting, of course.

Now spontaneously he would give more sessions for others, quite happily and easily, but in the framework of the situation, the black or white aspect holds back such expression. (Pause.) He would probably see more groups, as you both did at 458 together, were it not for the black or white thinking, but this would be in response to quite spontaneous urgings to do so. (Pause.) The spontaneous self can quite spontaneously say no—and most of his spontaneous feelings toward the public arena are those of quick natural rejection. [...]

[...] He was afraid that the spontaneous self would go overboard in that direction. It is the spontaneous self, of course, as much as any other portion of the personality, that often spontaneously holds back when such issues are considered—the part that is somehow spontaneously offended—a very important point to remember. [...]

(“It would be easy for her to transpose that basic fear of the psychic abilities and Seth into a fear of spontaneity going too far, and of not working at her desk. [...] But the intellect would insist upon keeping rigid control, fearing that if Jane let her spontaneous self hold sway that it would go whole hog psychically, in the worst way, and destroy all other elements and activities of the personality.”

[...] He was saved, so it seemed, from endless explanations; so with a kind of psychological economy that worked far too well for a time the symptoms served to keep him writing at his desk, to regulate the flow of psychic activity, making sure of its direction, and to provide a suitable social reason to refrain from activities that might distract him—from tours or shows, and also even from any onslaught of psychic activity that might follow any unseeming (underlined) spontaneous behavior. [...]

[...] All of this boils down to what I have said unceasingly (whispering) about trusting the spontaneous self—for in the most simple of terms, you do not need poor mobility as a working method for any reasons, if you trust the spontaneous self in its dealings with the conscious personality and with the world.

[...] Ruburt did not know, as given in the past, what the spontaneous self might lead to. [...]

If you trust the spontaneous self, then automatically you do not need such a framework, but you must learn to allow it its expression. [...]

[...] And beside that, Ruburt had his own concerns with spontaneity and discipline.

[...] Just now, reading a letter from the editor of an occult journal I found myself mentally responding in James vein, saying: I am somewhat judicious, and therefore waited before responding”—and suddenly I saw—that I WAS SOMEWHAT JUDICIOUS—I AM SOMEWHAT JUDICIOUS and in my mind I’ve thought that I was if anything overly spontaneous and therefore to be watched lest my spontaneity contradict my “reason” as if on my own I had no “judiciousness”—and not seeing in fact that the symptoms were the result of —over-judiciousness. [...] I don’t have to take stern measures—for—automatically I use my spontaneity judiciously! [...]

When you two make love in any manner, you are involved with a spontaneity and discipline, again, that literally cannot be consciously ascertained. In Ruburt’s situation, such encounters are particularly of the highest import, for spontaneous motion is elicited. [...] More than this, the body automatically, spontaneously responds to emotion, and yet in that spontaneous activity what inner discipline reigns.

[...] Thusly, Ruburt felt that there were contradictions between spontaneity and discipline, the intuitions and the intellect. Therefore he tried to be either spontaneous or disciplined, or intellectual or intuitive, but with the implied supposition that these were somehow opposing conditions, or opposing elements of behavior.

The inner order of the body is hidden within its great spontaneous abilities. Now Ruburt once felt that he had to discipline his impulses, lest they spontaneously lead him where he felt his purposes, or safety, might be threatened. [...]

The physical body runs itself spontaneously, and yet with an inner automatic discipline and order that is indeed almost impossible for you to understand.

In the first place, as often mentioned lately, the reasoning mind is spontaneously fired. The species contains within itself all of the necessary spontaneous attributes that are necessary to form a civilization, for example. [...]

Now: Ruburt’s skill is as ancient as man is, and indeed all of your arts, sciences, and cultural achievements are the offshoots of (pause) spontaneous mental and biological processes.

Early man, for example, spontaneously played at acting out the part of other animals. [...]

[...] (Long pause.) Man dealt then with spontaneous knowing in a more direct fashion.

Your spontaneous selves is the answer. Not control, but spontaneity, Now I did not say this, but spontaneity knows its own control, that is an entirely different sort. [...]

The most important is that which is before you most intimately and it is the nature of spontaneity. [...] The spontaneous self, left to itself, ideally is the answer. [...]

[...] But all of you sit here very nicely, very spontaneously, very alive, very conscious and none of you know, egotistically, how you do so or what make your thoughts work. When you begin to question how your heart beats or why, then you can encounter difficulties if you lose the faith that they work spontaneously and that your conscious knowledge is not necessary for the fine mechanisms that keep you alive. [...]

([Ron:] “So you are saying that this type of involvement, because it is the most spontaneously structured, is the most valuable?”)

[...] He felt that this same quality, physically translated, led to a physical spontaneity that would make the inner spontaneity more difficult to achieve. Spontaneity and energy used in his work was one thing, but allowed physical translation, he felt, could mean bizarre, unreasonable physical complications.

Now these are his interpretations, but whenever you rejected his spontaneous advances, for whatever reasons you may have had, this helped reinforce that idea. There was, my dear friend, little danger of Ruburt becoming pregnant, when spontaneous passionate moments on both of your parts were cut out.

In many areas then both of you controlled your spontaneity. For Ruburt this had greater dangers than it did for you because he is geared toward spontaneous action. [...]

[...] His natural abilities are unconventionally tuned, highly spontaneous, working through intuitive loops; in a certain way, now, from a normally conscious viewpoint, unpredictable.

[...] Ruburt blocked out emotional spontaneity, feeling that his father was lax. You blocked out emotional spontaneity, feeling that your mother’s was detrimental to creative isolation. At the same time you admired Ruburt’s spontaneity. [...]

Encouraging Ruburt’s physical spontaneity now, you symbolically encourage your own inner spontaneity, and both of you recognize that. [...]

[...] What we want to get across is the idea that motion is spontaneous. [...]

[...] His mother represented will untempered by spontaneity or relaxation, quite frankly a will for power over others. [...]

[...] Each painting has a spontaneous reality that you have often refused to acknowledge. (Pause.) Carried to extremes this could smother the spontaneous spark that is the heart of each painting.

[...] This gives direction to the spontaneous self. [...]

[...] It is somewhat astonished to discover that the spontaneous self is no enemy, but a friend and ally. [...]

[...] (Pause.) You can step out, so to speak, you can allow yourself to rely upon the integrity of spontaneity as it applies to your painting and to your talent.

[...] He enjoyed last evening’s spontaneous session (for Jane’s Tuesday night ESP class), and such sessions, while they do not particularly add to our material, replenish his creative efforts and give him a sense of freedom. The spontaneity often, though not always, helps to focus his abilities, and provides us with an excellent trance state. The spontaneity provides its own training. You may have noticed that often when you miss a regular session, I have held a spontaneous one in class.

This was on his part simply an attempt for spontaneity. The spontaneous self had risen up against what it considered the rigidity of beginning a session at a particular moment. [...]

[...] They also need spontaneity, and for his own nature, I try to see that both needs are met. [...]

[...] The psychic work with Ruburt has a strong spontaneous nature, and at times he resents, while he also needs, the regular schedules that you seem to require physically.

[...] For in the miraculous spontaneity of the sun, there is discipline that utterly escapes you, and a knowledge beyond any that we know. And in the spontaneous playing of the bees from flower to flower, there is a discipline beyond any that you know, and laws that follow their own knowledge, and joy that is beyond command. For true discipline, you see, is found only in spontaneity. Spontaneity knows its own order.”

[...] “In the spontaneous working of your nervous system, what do we find? [...] And yet all of this rests upon the spontaneous workings of the inner self, and the nervous system of which the intellect knows little. And without that spontaneous discipline, there would be no ego to sit upon the shoulders and demand discipline. [...]

[...] Spontaneity, above all, is the rule. If we were truly spontaneous, Seth says, we wouldn’t need to worry about positive suggestions because our health would be normally maintained.

One of my students, a businessman, always gets worried when Seth speaks about spontaneity. [...] But he’s very much a community man also, and the word “spontaneity” can be like a red scarf to a bull, at least as far as he is concerned! [...]

[...] Our sessions have also had their basis in spontaneity and creative energy, and the spontaneous nature always shows itself. You merely set the form through which the spontaneity flows.

[...] He did not know whether he dared yet trust his spontaneity, and imposed upon himself symptoms as limitations.

[...] He is now free enough so that the spontaneous method of working on our book came to him, and he began working upon it in that manner today.

[...] On the other hand the moving of the bookcase to divide the work area showed even before his novel idea that his spontaneity was emerging fully within his work again, and that the work area was therefore to be separated from social activities.

[...] Our books bring in money, simply because money at your level of activity is a natural result of spontaneous creativity. Your paintings will bring in money when they are the result of spontaneous creativity. Ruburt’s spontaneity escaped all of his “language,” in other words. His physical mobility will result from the body’s spontaneous creativity. [...]

[...] While you had no such problem, the difficulty stands for a fear of spontaneous action in an unsafe world.

[...] This knowledge is spontaneously and automatically received by the energy that composes your body, and then it is processed so that pertinent information applying to you can be taken advantage of. [...] (Pause.) Impulses are spontaneous, and you have been taught not to trust the spontaneous portions of your being, but to rely upon your reason and your intellect — which (amused) both operate, incidentally, quite spontaneously, by the way.

When you let yourselves alone, you are spontaneously reasonable, but because of your beliefs it seems that reason and spontaneity make poor bedfellows.

[...] They seek to sabotage your belief in your spontaneous being, so that the great power of impulses becomes damned up. [...]

[...] Only people who trust their spontaneous beings and the altruistic nature of their impulses can be consciously wise enough to choose from a myriad of probable futures the most promising events — for again, impulses take not only [people’s] best interest into consideration, but those of all other species.

[...] He allowed himself no spontaneous expression at home with his mother. This denied, his normal spontaneity exploded when it was allowed opportunity, sometimes in unfortunate circumstances. [...] With Zeh, again, Ruburt denied the spontaneous self in normal daily interaction with him; with Zeh. And this denied spontaneous self exploded when and where it could.

It provides for the deepest spontaneous expression of the subconscious, gives the ego a directive and sense of purpose, and develops the overall abilities of the personality, which in the past were completely denied, for lack of training and out of fear. [...]

[...] As he grew older he thought of the ego as a balancing agent against an inner spontaneous self that always, it seemed, got him into trouble. [...]

You see, as Ruburt allows himself spontaneity, again, the mother identification will automatically vanish, and with it the symptoms it causes. [...]

[...] When he began to cut off his natural spontaneous expression in dream reality, out-of-body travel, etc., he denied himself the acquisition of that facility to some degree.

It is then, again, the spontaneity of his own being that alternately delights and appalls him. [...]

[...] You were also worried about Ruburt’s spontaneity in psychic matters, and for a while quite approved of the sudden brakes. [...]

He normally and naturally awakens often in the early hours, and does not get up because his body is too sore, in his terms, but he spontaneously feels an alliance with himself and those hours, and intuitively knows that his creative abilities are strong then, and his dream recall good.

[...] What she should be stressing, I said, was that she trusted her spontaneous self—then the body would automatically react to the release of tension, to her trust in that spontaneous self. [...]

It often seems to him that to relax is to be lax, to let down, do nothing, achieve nothing, as if spontaneously left alone he would be lazy, unambitious, and again lax. [...] (Pause.) At the same time there are feelings that to relax would be to let go too much (louder)—slide into overly spontaneous behavior, to lack control over one’s life, to lose the observer’s fine focus. [...]

[...] The cause of Jane’s symptoms is her fear of the spontaneous self—that is the area that needs treatment. [...]

[...] She fears then, Seth going too far as an expression of her creative and spontaneous self. [...]