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Ruburt often mentions schedules. [...] Continuing your relationship as it is now is highly important, and the basis necessary for my next suggestion as to Ruburt’s behavior.

You should both, as Ruburt thought earlier, go out into the public at least one night within a two-week period. Ruburt is quite able physically to do so. [...]

You are doing excellently, relating to Ruburt. [...]

[...] Telepathic communication between you and Ruburt was also involved. Ruburt realized that as you changed, so would he. [...]

[...] If I were, additional protein and chemical properties would be needed from Ruburt. In our sessions I usually bring additional energy with me, and Ruburt knows how to handle it. [...]

[...] Ruburt’s spontaneous nature is tolerant, sunny, quite natively good in his terms—qualities that he finds so difficult when he tries to manufacture them while denying spontaneity. I expect now a definite change for the better, and as soon as Ruburt is ready, then we will begin my book.

You may tell Ruburt he has not lost his bright self, and it has gone nowhere.

If Ruburt will permit me one small note here. You, Joseph, have been extremely helpful to Ruburt during the past few days, although I know it is on your part an extension.

As a secretary, our dear Ruburt will simply not succeed. [...] Taking down someone else’s words, verbatim, is to Ruburt, because of his own creative ability an inferior position.

The new director does indeed have a fussy, almost womanish love of detail for detail’s sake, and this sort of mind is one with which Ruburt finds it difficult to attune when closely involved. And here is a pretty point: Ruburt’s insistence upon the term gallery secretary left room for a certain independence and impersonality and leeway, that the term Mr. So-and-so’s secretary does not leave room for.

This is then the reason for our fuss, and since Ruburt did enjoy a certain independence in which he functioned well, he now feels deprived and angry. [...] Also, close or even fairly close supervision bothers Ruburt because of the constant closeness of his mother in space, during youth.

[...] Ruburt does not feel he can properly see his way out. [...] Ruburt should stop telling himself that he does not want to see people. [...]

(We haven’t paid any attention to the last session, for December 26, 1977, yet it contains a line that I’ve thought of often since it came through: “Ruburt....constantly concentrates upon what is still wrong.” [...]

Ruburt has not had his own approval. [...]

Ruburt believes he should be a TV personality, a healer, a writer, an excellent psychic versed in all of the most esoteric traditions, a magnetic personality. [...]

Peggy (Gallagher) was so surprised at Ruburt’s ideas of the pictures that Ruburt saw clearly, though briefly, the projection involved on his part, but also on your own. The therapies begun are continuing in more concentrated fashion, and I want both of you to note improvements, to take it for granted they are occurring, and literally to say, as Ruburt did, “To hell with it, it is happening.”

[...] Ruburt was on the verge of realizing his freedom this evening in many areas beside the physical, and the strong therapeutic process is at work.

The unscheduled session is beneficial in that it gives Ruburt practice. [...]

[...] There is an emotional rapport that also carries Ruburt along when my spirits or moods then also sweep him along; and again the Jane ego is content to stand aside. [...]

[...] The experience is valuable to Ruburt in that he sees that no invasion is involved; and that when his emotions are stilled there is still an emotional reality, as my emotions come to the foreground.

[...] Since I am using Ruburt’s voice mechanisms, certain adjustments must be made as I discover how best to manipulate the necessary mechanisms.

The book will stand along with Ruburt’s own Aspect Psychology, serving to give demonstrations in the operation of the psyche itself as different parts of it view the reality that you know, and an inner reality that is sometimes so much more difficult for you to perceive.

Ruburt’s work with the contents of the mind, for example, is barely started, and I will include his exercises in my book (amused)—while giving him full credit, of course. [...]

Ruburt is dealing with events of the psyche as the inner therapeutic measures continue. [...]

As Ruburt’s physical condition changes, this “merely” signifies a turnabout in his entire handling of himself as psyche and self form a new alliance.

Ruburt knew that spontaneity was the basis of his creativity, and of anyone else’s. To that extent you disapproved of it. [...] Ruburt feared that spontaneity had to be tempered, because spontaneity meant unbridled, rampant, uncontrolled impulse. [...]

You both comment often about Ruburt’s literal mind, forgetting that it is most knowledgeable as far as symbolic content is concerned. [...]

[...] Would Ruburt then simply continue seeing Frank now, and the old, it seemed useless, rituals go on?

Furthermore, in the back of your mind, and somewhat at least as a result of the Gallaghers’ well-meaning query, you also wondered if you were doing your duty should you not insist that Ruburt receive conventional but definite help? [...]

[...] To protect your abilities both of you had to take certain steps, Ruburt by way of enforcing discipline, Joseph by way of enforcing isolation. Ruburt is secure, discipline is now a part of his framework. [...]

Then I will say good evening; and Ruburt, my most sincere gratitude. [...] I could make Ruburt go on for hours, but I will take compassion upon the flesh, and say good evening.

[...] I will never cease to be amused with Ruburt’s little tricks, such as watching the minutes, and I would not at all be surprised, Joseph, to find that he continues in the same hilarious fashion as times goes by. [...]

[...] Without this ego elasticity, that is without the ability of the ego to assume control and to guide Ruburt back, immediately reassuming control, we would be in for much less peaceful sessions, and the quantity and quality of the overall material would suffer. [...]

(Leaning back on the couch, eyes closed:) When Ruburt was a church member, however, the church itself was there, easily identified. To some extent later, even when it was a worthy opponent, Ruburt could see where his own ideas fit in or did not. [...]

(Long pause.) “The church” was not a hypothetical entity, but was encountered through Ruburt’s experience with the priests who visited, their effect upon his life and his poetry, and with the entire fabric of a young intense daily life. If the church became upset with what Ruburt wrote or read, then Father Ryan burned one of his books, or argued with his poetry, for example, so all of that was living emotional content. [...]

Ruburt’s creative abilities still had those classical models, yet because of his mind’s originality and his natural intuitive nature; those creative abilities were also fueled by unofficial information: he was always to some extent in strong connection with the knowledge possessed by his natural person—and that knowledge kept seeking expression. [...] It kept seeking a larger framework for its own fulfillment and expression, of course, and at the same time it seemed to Ruburt it brought about further dissension. [...]

[...] Ruburt has not been able to utilize the natural grace of the basic self because of those beliefs in their sinful nature. [...] Your own lovemaking the other evening, and your renewed expressions of affection, helped initiate the entire experience, by letting Ruburt feel safe enough to be aware of and experience those sensations. [...]

You spoke to Ruburt about imagination, and he must learn to use it for his benefit, through imagining himself free and well. [...] Ruburt considers it almost unspeakable. [...]

If Ruburt shows a bad bout of symptoms then often you both become extremely fearful. [...]

[...] Ruburt fears that he has a condition which will persist indefinitely.

[...] It is most important that Ruburt believe this, but extremely helpful if you will.

Since Ruburt’s work involved him most directly in an examination of the self and in the unknown reaches of the psyche, then his experiences led him into a conflict with the idea of the Sinful Self. [...] Ruburt was to some extent afraid to accept that concept fully—therefore he has been unable to utilize it fully in his mistaken belief that he must maintain a largely critical stance. [...]

[...] Instead, Ruburt tells himself he should be above such feelings, or that they simply should no longer apply. [...] Understanding those issues can further help Ruburt give up the entire construct.

For Ruburt: you do not lead people anywhere. [...]

[...] Ruburt has been extremely cautious in the past, wanting to make sure, as mentioned, that he was not leading others down the proverbial garden path. [...]

It would be of help along these lines for Ruburt to scrub his rug, as for him rugs have a certain significance in this respect, and particularly air the bedding. [...]

[...] Ruburt should brush his animals; all of this for its symbolic meaning, but symbolism reinforced on the sense data level.

[...] Ruburt will react against this more often than you, being born under his particular birthmark.

[...] Ruburt usually pays it no mind, believing it in the past a part of discipline to ignore the innate independent childlike desire for treats or special attention.

For some years, to varying extents, Ruburt and you also to a lesser degree became motivated by ideas of who you should (underlined) be, what you should (underlined) be doing, and what your responsibilities were. [...] In Ruburt’s case the idea of responsibility became far more pervasive, resulting in what I have referred to as being almost a superself image—an image composed of his ideas of the kind of person he should (underlined) be in his position. [...]

I gave you a session not too long ago dealing with the natural person, and specifically with Ruburt’s natural characteristics. [...] This other-directed superself image, however, largely of social construction, superimposes the idea of responsibility over the idea of enjoyment, and in many cases is in direct contradiction as far as Ruburt’s natural tendencies are concerned. [...]

(9:38.) In a way, Ruburt’s symptoms ended up as providing a system of controls, serving in several rather than one area, but areas that he is now exploring in rather concentrated form. The symptoms did serve partially as face-saving devices, and for both of you to some extent, to explain behavior of your own that perhaps you did not understand—though this largely involves Ruburt’s behavior, of course. [...]

Ruburt has been working with them on a much more conscious level. [...] The difficulty with Ruburt’s arms and hands bother his typing now, showing him finally in no uncertain terms that the system has served its purpose long ago, and that his creativity is dependent upon psychological and physical mobility. [...]

I would also have greeted Ruburt’s father, but indeed I was not invited to join the graceful family circle. [...] The woman, seriously, has found some comfort with Ruburt’s father, but the personality is in sore trouble, and explosive. [...]

There is also a reason why Ruburt saw the former gallery administrator in the old woman dream, immediately after he perceived the old woman dead. [...] It is for this reason that Ruburt saw her. [...]

On one level then Ruburt was psychically anticipating winter with its symbolism, and he involved you in his concern. The dream said that Ruburt died once and yet lived again, and that as you survived a leaky old ship at one occasion, so would the basic selves always survive.

I will here mention Ruburt’s dream, in which he spoke reassuringly to two men who were ill with cancer by telling them that this material said that he too had cancer.

Now, involving the performance on Ruburt’s part this evening, we have here once more another example of the nature in which action is changed by itself. For indeed, as it was possible for Ruburt to some slight degree to allow her friend to speak, nevertheless the action involved in the whole situation nevertheless changed not only Ruburt, but also necessarily changed her Father Trainor, in that any action of its own nature can never remain the same.

I have gone along, you must admit, with extreme good will, and suffered indeed all of Ruburt’s most painful and conscientious objections. The fact merely remains that I am who I am, and I am not Ruburt.

I have better use for my time, and Ruburt certainly has better use for his own. From the beginning I was indeed grateful that Ruburt was not—

[...] This evening’s session, all in all, will be most beneficial to Ruburt, and I hope it will be beneficial to you. [...] He, Ruburt, is basically with me all the way, but he has Jane to contend with.

We will have a freer hand since Ruburt has vocalized some of his doubts. [...] Had there been a strong or powerful overall threat to Ruburt, I would have discontinued the sessions. [...]

[...] (One of the points we discussed before the session.) Ruburt feels my presence now, and during many sessions, and he knows it well. [...] Ruburt need have no doubts there.

I am with you now, though our voice is mild enough, very strongly this evening, and I am making an effort to make my presence known quite definitely to you and to Ruburt; and I shall do this more frequently to build up Ruburt’s confidence.

Ruburt was strongly committed to the sessions on the one hand, and highly skeptical on the other. [...]

If you think of Ruburt’s normal flexibility as a creative endeavor, then automatically and easily, Ruburt first of all, and you, will find your creative abilities coming to the fore in that direction, bringing about results that are far quicker, easier, and executed in such a manner that Framework 2 adds immeasurably to that area of your lives.

[...] Ruburt’s feather is an aid because of its associative value. [...]

[...] The suggestions concerning hypnosis, therefore, would be of great help in accelerating Ruburt’s progress, and thereby relieving both of your minds.

[...] The same can apply in Ruburt’s physical condition. [...]

(10:10.) Ruburt has been worrying, rather than concentrating upon his creative work. [...] Ruburt’s fantasy that I mentioned—that was an attempt. [...] Neither of you have done so, though Ruburt did make a few attempts. [...]

Ruburt discarded that instance, you see. [...]

Ruburt thought of the seminar, or at least of seeing some such people, but then became discouraged. [...]

[...] Your intents insert plans for action in Framework 2. Ruburt has had some results. [...]

You have not forced Ruburt into paths where he did not want to go. What seems to you like inner difficulties or problems, or lack of success, like Ruburt’s desolations, serve as the very impetus to development. (In my art.) Ruburt should be open about the symptoms (etc.).

Now it will help if you take it for granted that under some circumstances, dealing with Ruburt’s idea of authority, he has difficulty expressing dissatisfaction, or any normal impatience... [...]