“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] They take hardly any time, but will be most effective.

[...] This is to be done once at a time only. [...]

[...] Once they were meant to promote your psychological understanding, but now they can only impede your progress; and you are also slightly resentful at Ruburt, feeling that he is somewhat responsible, by still maintaining his symptoms, for your own.

Ruburt’s own system is charged at such times. [...]

[...] You do not understand your own multidimensional reality; therefore it seems strange or unbelievable when I tell you that you live many existences at one time. It is difficult for you to imagine being in two places at once, much less in two or more times, or centuries.

(Pause at 9:24.) Now stated simply, time is not a series of moments. The words that you speak, the acts that you perform, appear to take place in time, as a chair or table appears to take up space. [...]

[...] The assumptions are that time is a series of moments one after another; that an objective world exists quite independently of your own creation and perception of it; that you are bound within the physical bodies that you have donned; and that you are limited by time and space.

[...] They take place in different periods of time. [...]

[...] Now in matters of personal health, this is bound to add to the uncertainty: you are trying to live your lives according to new rules that are as yet not completely given, so to that extent it is somewhat natural that Ruburt and you become at times uneasy, wonder at times about the personal material, wonder if it is distorted in those areas, or whatever—and there are no known ways to check such material—the material itself is that original. [...]

[...] Yet while trying the library she felt “relaxed and panicky at the same time.” [...]

[...] (Long pause.) He suggests that others follow their own intuitional material, while at the same time holding on to the established frameworks upon which most people depend. [...]

[...] The panic he feels in some particular kind of relaxation episodes does indeed involve the psychological feelings that were buried within that releasing tension. [...]

(As it was, Seth spoke very briefly to Timothy Foote at about 3:00 PM, discussing some remarks all of us had been making about Freudian psychology. [...] At the time I thought the brief appearance a little odd, but when it developed that Timothy Foote wouldn’t be staying for supper, as we had planned, Seth’s appearance made good sense.

(Timothy Foote, senior editor in charge of the book review department for Time Magazine, interviewed Jane and me today in connection with a cover story he is to write about Richard Bach and Jonathan Livingston Seagull.

(Some time later Jane told me she picked up that when Seth spoke Timothy was suspicious—“Seth would speak now, you see, in order to make an impression,” etc.

(A copy of Seth’s answer to Timothy’s daughter will be sent to Timothy, probably after his article about Dick Bach has appeared in Time Magazine. [...]

(9:15.) The earth-tuned consciousness must deal within the space-time context, for only inside this framework can it clearly perceive events. In the dream state consciousness ignores space-time relationships to a large degree, and yet it is still firmly based upon the body’s corporeal mechanism. [...]

In waking life you perceive only certain portions of events that fall within your space-time continuum. [...] You may for example see in the past, present and future, objects that in your time will take up any given space. [...]

[...] In your terms, the race at any given “time” simultaneously works out problems in the dream state, and those solutions are then physically materialized. Because there is more freedom from time and space in the dream state, there is greater overall perspective; many solutions that may appear poor in the short range — as they are physically activated — will in the longer range be seen as highly creative.

She must experience such events in your time series, where to others they do not fit. [...] The grappling with probabilities enables your mother to judge the circumstances of her physical life, and to program herself ahead of time, so to speak, for her next adventure.

[...] At the same time there was a great clangor outside: Three firetrucks and another vehicle, all with sirens, turned the corner just outside our third-story window, evidently heading toward the temporary entrance to the emergency room. [...]

Within Seth’s concept of simultaneous time, the treasured images in this gallery are fine examples of how the “past” lives in the “present” and in the “future.”

[...] It’s quite a psychic, psychological, and physical education to stare at oneself in a mirror over a period of three months!

For some time, subjectively, he was in a highly ambiguous position. [...] Superstitiously he felt that in hiding fears about your parents he hid them for you both—shoved them under the psychological rug; but the rug became heavier and heavier.

(At the time Rebellers was published, I was jealous, but it took me some time to learn this. [...]

[...] I was really upset by this time in the session. [...] I did voice some thoughts that I’ve mentioned before: about why, in times of great stress when it’s obvious the organism is in trouble, it doesn’t intuitively override wrong thinking and set itself right so that it can go on about the business of life, etc. [...]

[...] Suffice it to say here that Jane’s own pendulum agreed with it in toto, and we spent a good deal of time discussing it. [...]

[...] He may if he prefers do his psychological time in the afternoons, when you are here, Joseph. Indeed now regularity is good, particularly since I have limited his time.

[...] Within it fulfillment and development are not dependent upon permanence of physical matter, however, and are not at all dependent upon any concept like that of your physical time. There [are] therefore possible bursts of developments, that have matured within perspectives that are not bound up in time, and that would appear spontaneous to the waking self.

Now basically even the physical universe itself is so constructed, but for all practical purposes, as far as general perception and experience is concerned, time and the physical growth development apply, so that we find the ego portion, particularly of the human personality, is to a large extent dependent for its maturity and development upon the amount of time that the physical image has spent within the system.

[...] I have been mentioning the incidents to Jane just before session time, in case Seth cared to comment on them, but to date he hasn’t dealt with them. [...]

There are individuals who do choose ahead of time — in one lifetime or another — to accept such a divergent genetic heritage for their own reasons — often to experience life from one of its most unique aspects, and sometimes in order to encourage the growth of other abilities that might not otherwise occur.

[...] Some may even have superior understanding of physical and psychological space. [...]

Probabilities are valid time terminals. Ruburt’s accelerated state at that “time” led him to a threshold of experience that could be translated into Framework 1, but could not be sustained here in terms of ordinary behavior. The bridge personality was a psychological result, appearing in time, yet apart from it. [...]

[...] That experience of Ruburt’s in time terms would be like a concentrated time pill: there are pills you take that are released in timed sequences. [...] In the time framework of Framework 1, the time period could not contain such accelerated mental or psychic motion, so it appears in your terms of time during our continuous session. My personality could not be “defined” or contained within that initial experience either—so you see, strung out through the years, what in other terms I “said,” or “was,” at the time of Ruburt’s idea construction experience.

It takes physical time to write a book, so some physical time must be allowed for the normal behavior of Ruburt’s body. [...] Follow my suggestions, and know that the necessary work is being done completely outside of physical time, so that improvements can occur of a significant nature without any particular conventional expected processes that must first occur.

The actual time involved in that experience was minute. In a way—underlined twice—that kind of time use represents the kind of threshold I use in my communications in sessions. [...]

[...] This ability escaped us for some time, until we finally realized the various approaches used by Seth to make the material given meaningful to the very different personalities involved.)

The material is quite legitimate, regardless of the ways in which I may choose to present it at various times. [...]

The whole body of the material, by the time that we are done, will speak in various ways to various types of individuals who may not be able to speak to each other. [...]

[...] When I speak to them I am thinking of them, and to some extent I can indeed enter into their psychological reality. [...]

[...] She was not particularly trying psychological time, yet she felt that she was familiarizing herself for a new development. [...]

(It might be interesting to note that at the time Jane received this idea, I was working on an index for the 35th session, of March 16, 1964. [...] Jane did not know what session I was working on, and we were also separated by two rooms at the time.

[...] It is now quite a few days later as I type this material, and Jane and I have had time to think it over. [...] She did not want to dispense with the board for some time.

[...] Her second thought was one of panic, in that she wouldn’t know the passage of time as usual, etc.

[...] “My mother assaulted me psychologically in front of others,” she said. [...] At the same time, it seemed obvious that these memories surfacing represented a therapeutic instance of what Seth had said would happen: memories bubbling to the surface where they could be examined and defused, instead of being kept repressed in the past. [...]

His overconscientiousness as a young person, and his intense concern—overconcern—at times with the literal “truth” of any given situation, is and was largely his reaction to his mother’s habitual, often mischievous lying pattern. [...]

[...] That particular subject matter can be discussed at another time. [...]

[...] And he has pursued that course vigorously even when he did not consciously see the continuity of such a project at any given time. [...]

[...] I’ve been busy putting my own notes for Seth’s “Unknown” Reality in order, and have also allowed myself some painting time each day. [...]

[...] Using that set, you can leap from station to station, so to speak — not simply perceiving, but experiencing what is happening in other times and places.

[...] There is no inherent psychological or biological necessity for this. [...]

[...] All the time you know that salvation is nearby: You can always switch off the program. [...]

[...] I am placing these concepts within your time scheme because in your terms they were born out of it. But the fact is that all “time” is simultaneous.

[...] Your own body grows naturally and easily from its time of birth, not expecting resistance but taking its miraculous unfolding for granted; using all of itself with great, gracious, creatively aggressive abandon.

[...] All of this applies in degrees according to the species, and when I speak of conscious memory I am using words that are familiar to you — I mean a memory that can at any time look back through itself.

In a simultaneous time, punishment makes no sense. [...]

[...] Your ideas of historic time impede my explanations. [...] Some such encounters intersected in space and time, but some did not. [...]

(9:54.) Time’s framework does not exist as you think it does. [...] So there are processes that work like associations, that can provide passageways through the universe’s otherwise time-structured ways. [...]

[...] (Long pause.) You exist in a kind of original interval—though, if you can, think of the word “interval” without the connotations of continuing time. [...]

Your stated universe emerged out of that kind of interval, emerging from a master event whose true nature remains uncaptured by your definitions—so there will be places in our book where I may say that an event known to you is true and untrue at the same time, or that it is both myth and fact. [...]

(I called Upjohn nursing service last Tuesday, noting that starting next Monday we’ll want a nurse at the house only three times a week instead of five. [...]

[...] Actually, I regard the attitudes and beliefs of her sinful self as the key to Jane’s recovery, since better attitudes there will leave her free to automatically restore mobility, both physically and psychologically. [...]

[...] The box idea (propping up her legs while she’s prone on the bed) is an excellent one, but should be tried very gradually and easily at first, and then gradually expanded in time. [...]

[...] It is taking him time to build up reassurance again after the doctors’ pronouncements. [...]

Even if you think the body does have something wrong with it, then the necessary adjustments would be made in another kind of time that in Framework 1 would take no time at all—or, the amount of time you thought required.

[...] He gave himself a time period that he knew he could reasonably handle. [...] That kind of method gives you something to work with, and a time period you can handle.

This is a way of encouraging Ruburt’s physical spontaneity, for his emotions and body each together want to move at such times. [...] Carried to the extreme in the past, Ruburt would not even want to take time for a decent shower, unless his other goals for the week were met.

We will call your working framework, Framework 1 for purposes of discussion, and this higher framework, Framework 2. In Framework 1, time must be allowed for the body to respond, physical time. [...]

(Jane was also surprised at the amount of time that had passed. She’d had no sense of time passing, whereas at other times she might have quite a definite sense of “the psychological distance,” or time that had passed.

[...] “Here it’s session time and I don’t have an idea in my head....” So after all this time she still preferred to know in advance what was coming up in a session.

Drawing and painting during such periods was considered both sacred and immensely useful at the same time. [...]

[...] Your society has emphasized and exaggerated the objective characteristics of life to such an extent, however, that art seems to be an esthetic, fairly remote phenomenon, quite divorced from physical time. [...]

[...] It includes other interweaving physical relationships that bind you with all others upon your planet at the same adjacent level of time. [...] You are time contemporaries. [...]

Here also ideas of time hamper you, for I must explain all of this in temporal terms. Since time is simultaneous, at other levels your ancestors knew of your birth though they died centuries ago in recognized continuity. [...]

[...] These selves, however, dropping from one branch of time, root themselves in another time and become new plants from which others will sprout.

(Pause at 9:57.) Let those who will, laugh at tales of spirits turning into the trees⁵ — a simplistic theory, certainly, yet a symbolic statement in such societies: The dead were buried at home in the same close territory, to form in later times the very composition of the ground upon which religions grew. [...]