“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Even though he said he was through with Mass Events for the evening, the first subject Seth touched upon now — my dream of early yesterday morning — certainly was related to statements he’d made just before break, like this one: “When you enter time and physical life, you are already aware of its conditions.” I think my dream is an excellent example of that philosophy; I’d discussed the dream with Jane yesterday, and intended to ask Seth to comment upon it this evening if he didn’t voluntarily do so. I’m not claiming the dream inspired his material for tonight’s session, or that it was precognitive, in that I’d “picked up” on his subject matter for tonight, and constructed the dream around a portion of it in order to give myself that particular information. [...] From my dream notebook, with age data about all involved added for the reader’s convenience:

(“Very vivid, and in color as usual: I dreamed that I was in the kitchen of our hill house in Elmira, preparing to go outside into the back yard. [...] She was of an indeterminate age in the dream, as I was, and I believe she was telling me what to expect out there. [...]

(“I don’t recall having had any other dreams of this kind. [...] Jane was sleepily stirring beside me, and I told her I’d had quite a dream. [...]

(The dream suggests numerous subjects that Seth didn’t go into, and that I’ll leave for the reader to consider: reincarnation, the shifting of ages and the independence of memory from time in the dream state, and so forth. [...]

(Annie G.: “What about precognitive dreams?”)

[...] Often, however, the suggestion involved in a dream brings about the event, so it seems when the dream becomes real that you have looked into a future that already existed. [...]

[...] Whether or not you remember your dreams, for example, a certain portion of you, under hypnosis, could remember every dream that you ever had in your life. [...]

[...] Now, I tell you to remember your dreams. In your context I will tell you again not only to remember your dreams, but to learn to come awake in the middle of them and realize that you can manipulate within them. [...]

[...] Dreams themselves activate physical temperature however, and all bodily processes. Except in periods of extreme physical heat however, the temperature changes and the resulting electromagnetic alterations, are easily converted into legitimate impressions of a clairvoyant nature, precognitive information, and so forth.

In out-of-body experiences from the dream state however, there is a lowering rather than a heightening of body temperature, even though dream elements are involved.

[...] The recent dream experiments are highly superficial in this regard. [...]

Books have been written about the nature of dreams. There are classic accounts of precognitive dreams, or prophetic dreams involving saints and honored personages in the Bible. Yet each dream alters the physical world to some extent. [...] Dreams involve you with the most intimate mechanics by which physical events are formed. There are hormonal and chemical changes occurring in the body — often at minute but important levels — in direct response to dream experience. Your dreams then are tied into your biological makeup. There are also coded biological connections within dream images themselves that relate to cellular activity — not generally, but specifically.

To some extent your dreaming state is a connective between the kind of life you recognize and this far vaster dimension that is its source. Dreaming involves a far greater input of information than is realized, then — that is, you take in far more data when you are dreaming than when you are awake, although the data are of a different kind. You form your dreams in part from that information. The dreams themselves are further processed so that they become a fabric for recognizable waking events.

(9:48.) Dream dramas are highly complicated, artistic productions. [...] Such events are not lost, however, but translated into dreams as your own consciousness returns closer to its “home base.” Each aspect of a dream stands in coded form as a symbol for greater, undecipherable events.

Now the dream comes in the same fashion. You do not have to wonder about how to form a dream before you go to bed at night. You do not have to know any of the mechanisms involved, so dreaming often seems to “just happen” in the same way that an inspiration seems to just come.

In fact, the bulk of my dream locations in this study was equally divided between completely unfamiliar places and locations too indistinct to recall. Only seven dreams found me abroad. Most interesting of all, however, I found that most of my precognitive dreams happened in locations that were unfamiliar at the time of the dream. For this reason, I suggest that you pay particular attention to unfamiliar dream places.

Dreams are not just psychological events. There is a dimension of reality (an “objective” dimension, if you prefer) in which all dream events happen. [...] We have to learn what root-assumptions govern dream reality. I know that we can on occasion manipulate dream events; my students and I do this frequently. If we follow certain “rules” given to us by Seth, we will get more or less predictable results in the dream state — an indication that an “objective” dream dimension exists quite independently of us or our dreams, a dream dimension in which my dreams and yours have their being.

I was also interested in what I did in dreams — not just generally, but for any given night. During one period of four nights, I recorded twenty-one dreams. [...] I ran through radioactive rain (in a dream that, oddly enough, proved precognitive!), wandered through lovely gardens, explored several unfamiliar houses, and spoke with a well-known author whom I’ve never met. [...]

People who have always remembered many of their dreams may be less than impressed with the idea of recording dream activities, but others for whom sleep means oblivion will find dream recall a fascinating endeavor and the variety of dream acts almost astonishing. Even those with good dream-memories will find that persistant dream recall experiments are invaluable. As we discovered later, it is the effort required to remember dreams, and the resulting stretching of consciousness that finally opens up dream reality.

(This would make the dream precognitive.

(“Do you want to say a few words about the dream the dentist’s nurse told me about today?”)

[...] My question was not meant to pry into a personal life, merely to obtain what I thought would be interesting information about a certain dream related to me by Dr. Colucci’s nurse, voluntarily.)

We have the story behind your stout friend’s dream.

(The next day, January 28, after some debate, Jane called Ace in an effort to learn the status of the dream book. [...] If Jane’s experience this morning does include the sale of the dream book, the event can be called precognitive to some degree.

(The dream book, which is now at Ace for consideration, was involved. [...] The gist of these seemed to be that the dream book, its struggles in creation, etc., was involved, and that it was to be accepted, finally, by Ace. [...]

(Jane has a long list of dreams, psy-time experiences, messages from Seth and herself, to the effect that the dream book will be published.)

[...] Did the experience lead to the phone call, and will informing Ace of the sale of the Seth material result in the sale of the dream book? On the other hand, can the sale to P-H have an adverse effect upon the hoped-for sale of the dream book to Ace?)

SECOND ESSAY BY JANE ROBERTS: DREAMS FOR TWO AND SETH BEGINS A NEW PROJECT

The same night I had an experience with a mental conversation [that turned out to be precognitive].¹ I think both instances represent activity and communication … at the magical level. [...]

“Linden and his wife were close to their present physical ages in the dream, a year or so younger than I am, at 54, but Stella looked to be a few years younger than she should have been [she died at 81]. I know I created my dream image of her to make our communication understandable to me — yet I felt that she was alive, in our terms and in hers. My mother was obviously in control of her faculties, even though she appeared to be a little distraught … The fact that she looked past me speaks of some sort of barrier, or distance, between us even in the dream state. [...]

(Pause, eyes wide, staring at me.) Now for your dream. [...] Ruburt’s (written) comments about the dream are also pertinent, showing your own caution. [...]

5. This “margin of safety” between my mother and me is beautifully illustrated in my dream of two nights ago. And as if to further reassure my conscious mind, I saw my mother with people who were still “living”; this has been the case in other recent dream experiences I’ve had with her. [...]

(3. “It would be nice if Seth would say something about the dream I had the night before last, in which I think I contacted my [deceased] mother for the second time.” [...]

End of session, with one point: These changes in Ruburt’s body are as magical as any precognitive dream in that regard. [...]

[...] Seth referred to the painting I’m working on of my dream of last August 16, — [...] Seth and Jane have both analyzed this excellent dream.² Today I’d shown Jane how far I’ve progressed with a charcoal drawing based upon the dream, with a little preliminary color added to some parts of it.

(The theme of the dream had interested me pictorially from the beginning, I told her, but I’d almost lacked the nerve to try a rendition of it in paint. [...]

[...] My answer tells you of course that the last dream was also precognitive.

(Since February Jane has had a series of dreams and psy-time experiences involving her dream book, which is now at Parker. [...] The latest, on July 5, revealed the dream book as published.

(“What do you think of Jane’s series of dreams, involving her dream book?”

[...] The personal problems here have led to an increase of spontaneity in the dream state, and to added evidence of clairvoyance. [...]

[...] Yet many people are frightened of remembering dreams because they fear that a dream of disaster will necessarily be followed by such an event. [...] In fact, such a dream can instead be used to circumnavigate such a probability.

There is no need to divorce the waking and dreaming states in the particular fashion that currently operates — for they are complementary states, not opposite ones. A good deal of life’s normal dimensions are dependent upon your dream experience. Your entire familiarity with the world of symbols arises directly from the dreaming self.

Often the seeming meaninglessness of dreams is the result of your own ignorance of dream symbolism and organization. [...]

In certain terms, language itself has its roots in the dreaming condition — and man dreamed [that] he spoke long before language was born (intently).

[...] See, for instance, the quotations from the 690th session in Volume l; Seth discussed the ability of our species to precognitively alter the present from the future. Molecular biology and precognition are also referred to. Then see Note 17 for Appendix 12, wherein biological precognition and the cellular manipulation of probabilities are mentioned.

Of dreams held dormant,

(Long pause.) In your terms of time, however, we will speak of a beginning, and in that beginning it was early man’s dreams that allowed him to cope with physical reality. The dream world was his original learning ground. In times of drought he would dream of the location of water. In times of famine he would dream of the location of food. That is, his dreaming allowed him to clairvoyantly view the body of land. [...] In dreams his consciousness operated as a wave.

[...] What you now think of as the dream state was the waking one, for it was still the recognized form of purposeful activity, creativity, and power. The dream state continues to be a connective between the two realities, and as a species you literally learned to walk by first being sleepwalkers. [...] You dreamed your languages. You spoke in your dreams and later wrote down the alphabets—and your knowledge and your intellect have always been fired, sharpened, propelled by the great inner reality from which your minds emerged.

People were not nearly as isolated as it now appears, for in their dreams early men communicated their various locations, the symbols of their cultures and understanding, the nature of their arts. All of the inventions that you often think now happened quite by chance—the discovery of anything from the first tool to the importance of fire, or the coming of the Iron Age or whatever—all of that inventiveness was the result of the inspiration and communication of the dream world. Man dreamed his world and then created it, and the units of consciousness first dreamed man and all of the other species that you know.

In those early times all species shared their dreams in a way that is now quite unconscious for your kind, so that in dreams man inquired of the animals also—long before he learned to follow the animal tracks, for example. [...] Man explored the planet because his dreams told him that the land was there.

(A copy of Seth’s comments about my dream, which did contain some precognitive elements, is attached to the dream in my own notebook.)

[...] The apples did provide the painting connection with the girl, and the dream was very simple—a distorted view into tomorrow’s mirror. I am more concerned that you each to some degree have inhibited your subjective freedoms, and not allowed yourselves the opportunity for an even richer diet of dreams and psychic experience. [...]

(“Will you say something about my dream of last Saturday morning?”)

As you noted, the dream provided a distorted glimpse of your visitors.

[...] First of all you had the inner self, the creative dreaming self—composed, again, of units of consciousness, awareized energy that forms your identity, and that formed the identities of the earliest earth inhabitants. These inner selves formed their own dream bodies about them, as previously explained, but the dream bodies did not have to have physical reactions. [...]

So far in our discussion, then, we have an inner self, dwelling primarily in a mental or psychic dimension, dreaming itself into physical form, and finally forming a body consciousness. [...]

[Each] cell, then, as I have often said, operates so well in time because it is, in those terms, precognitive. [...]

[...] The inner self still related to dream reality, while the body’s orientation and the body consciousness attained, as was intended, a great sense of physical adventure, curiosity, speculation, wonder—and so once again the inner self put a portion of its consciousness in a different parcel, so to speak. [...]

(On September 9 Jane dreamed that she spoke to two sick men, saying to them, “Don’t worry. [...] Jane said the puzzling thing about this little dream was that in spite of its unpleasant content she felt no sense of alarm or danger or worry, that indeed she spoke to the two men quite cheerfully. She is concerned, though, wondering if the dream might be precognitive.

This dream is a sequel to another, in which Ruburt was aware of the death of an old woman who was a medium, and I will need to explain the first dream, that is the earlier one, to make the other dream comprehensible.

He threw this thought back to his personal subconscious, but by association it triggered memory of a previous death by cancer, which was then played back through the dream. But even then the reassuring dream came first. In the first dream, he was aware that the woman worked and was constructive until the last, and also that she passed the transition with little personal jolting.

It was only after this dream that the knowledge that the woman had died of cancer was allowed to emerge. The fact that Ruburt experienced in the dream, or following it, no sense of either fateful predestination or even fear, was a tip-off that the dream was not clairvoyant in terms of a future prediction.

[...] (See Volume 1 of “Unknown” Reality.) In the realities in which you saw him in the dream state, he was a wanderer—lonely, from your viewpoint, not his. The dreams represented your symbolic understanding that he was “a loner” in the probability in which you knew him—and in that guise you saw your father.

[...] Some of the dreams did involve other probabilities, however, in which members of your family died at different times than in your world, as with the dream involving Loren (my younger brother).

[...] These included promised material on my “probability dreams” involving family members; Jane’s hang-ups about finishing the two Seven novels she has started; and whether her teeth might have anything to do with her eye condition.

(Tonight Seth came through with excellent material on my probability dream question, and on reincarnation. [...]

You may have dreams urging you to move in such and such a direction, or pointing out areas in which corrections should be made. Often such dreams bring about behavior changes whether or not you remember them in the morning. You may request dreams in which proper direction is given, and you will receive them. If you ask on the one hand, however, and do not believe in the therapeutic nature of dreams on the other, you will short-circuit any such activity. [...] Instead you are saying, “I will have a dream to help me, and yet I do not believe I can have such a dream.”

[...] But this procedure is so far superior to anything that you know that the body, therefore, actually takes precognitive pictures of its future condition — as if the body situation at the time were projected into the future.

Now you are used, to some extent, to studying your dreams for precognitive information and checking dream events against future events, but you are not used to checking your reactions in the waking state today against the information that you learn tomorrow. [...]

[...] Now each of you in your own way, particularly in the dream state, are intimately acquainted with this invisible portion of yourselves. [...]

([Sue:] “Are you giving Jane and Rob information about the personality characteristics of the probable selves of my dream?”)

([Sue:] “Is that their dream state I am contacting or their waking state?”)