“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

You think of the beginnings or endings of civilizations, for example, marking them with specific dates. At the level at which spontaneous order operates, however, perception would span those dates. There could actually be no beginning or end to any culture. The idea of discipline as you think of it comes into effect most generally when you try to impose a secondary kind of order over the primary one. I am not speaking here of discipline as punishment, but of discipline accepted by a person or a civilization in order to direct action along certain lines. Such disciplines usually exaggerate and intensify one kind of natural spontaneous order over another. This is done because the natural spontaneous nature of order is not understood.

(Pause.) What you think of usually as order is an aspect of the spontaneous order that is within and behind the “mechanics” of all physical actions. The usual idea of order is greatly concerned with serial time, but spontaneity’s natural order, with its origins outside of time, has “all time to play with.”

Now: Spontaneity knows its own order, and it is from spontaneous order that all secondary classifications of order emerge.

(Earlier this afternoon Jane reread several deleted sessions dating from 1973. They left her feeling quite relaxed, so that she took her nap earlier than usual, and passed up her exercise period. The material in those sessions concerned her ideas of work, spontaneity, and order, among other things. She’d thought that spontaneity didn’t have any order.)

[...] That is, the construction of your body and the construction of a world (pause) are produced with the greatest combination of order and spontaneity — an order and spontaneity that seems hidden rather than apparent (all intently).

[...] All of this is done playfully, and yet emerges with the greatest display of order and design.

[...] Instead, of course, your intellectual abilities are supported and promoted by that inner mixture of spontaneity and order that so magically combine to form both your reality and the reality of the world.

[...] As stated, overall balance must be maintained, and is being maintained, overall, while the body still goes through many changes in stance that go unnoticed as muscles strengthen themselves in precise order, and circulation is increased. [...]

[...] Joints are being loosened—key ones, but in ways natural, so that undue strain is not put upon neighboring ligaments, which themselves are in order being stretched and renewed.

[...] The regeneration then is occurring, and accelerates again in a certain order. [...]

(The large numeral TWO is stamped in red on the money order, as the upper limit of its worth. [...] “It’s a duplicate [mentioned in test] of a money order,” Jane wrote later. [...] The money order has no border. Multiplicity of design, a very general appellation, could refer to the many numbers on the money order I suppose. Jane wrote my name on the order, but it does not bear my handwriting on either side.

(See page 277 for a tracing of the money order used in tonight’s 9th envelope test. [...] They sent the samples but returned the 25¢ money order. [...] I also enclosed the money order itself between two pieces of thin Bristol, to make it difficult for Jane to unwittingly pick up anything by feeling the shape of the object within the envelopes.

It is unfortunate that the idea of tests often disturbs the flexibility that is necessary in order to achieve results. [...]

[...] The money order has no connection with camping that I know of. [...]

There would be an order in which only predestination could rule, each part fitting in with a particular order without freedom to change the pattern given it. There is order, but within this order there is freedom — the freedom of creativity, that characteristic of All That Is, that guarantees its infinite becoming.

(9:25.) Your idea of development and growth, again, implies a one-line march toward perfection, so it would be difficult for you to imagine the kind of order that pervades. [...]

The universe expands, as I have said before, as an idea expands; and as sentences are built upon words, in your terms, and paragraphs upon sentences, and as each retains its own logic and continuity and evidence within that framework, so do all the portions of the universe appear to you also with the same cohesiveness (dash) — meaning continuity and order. [...] It seems to fall in order by itself as you say it. Its order is obvious. [...]

[...] It has meaning, coherence and order not only because of those realities that are obvious to you, and that appear, but also because of those inner realities that are “unspoken,” or hidden. [...]

[...] The universe deals with different kinds of order, perceptions, and organizations, each dependent upon the others, yet each separate in its own domain.

[...] You looked for great order, to create in painting an ordered universe, to find perfection that ideally you felt should be in the exterior world, and yet was lacking. You discovered that order itself springs from spontaneity, and this is your first real attempt to bring the two together. [...]

[...] In short, there might be certain things that, even though we could do them, we might better not do, in order to maintain overall balance, health, etc. [...]

[...] (Pause.) You trust the extrerior sense of order you perceive in objects, and when they are distorted this brings a sense of alarm—again, in paintings, not sketches.

[...] To represent it differently than it was, represented at best a half-lie—this from the exaggerated and distorted ideas of order that surrounded you as a child on the part of your father.

[...] As stated I ordered the plates by mail, enclosing a money order in payment, on December 3,1965. [...] To help the bureau check I enclosed the number from the money order stub, mentioned the amount of the money order, etc.

[...] I had ordered my 1966 license plates by mail, on December (twelve) 3rd (three), and had the money order stub with me in case it was necessary to show a record of payment.

[...] I had ordered them December 3,1965; as will be seen this date plays a part in the test results.

[...] When Jane and I went to the Elmira Bureau of Motor Vehicles to inquire as to why I hadn’t received the license plates I had ordered several weeks prior to mid-January, we found the office very crowded. [...]

[...] But in a manner of speaking, it is true to say that the universe was created in the same fashion that your own thoughts and dreams happen: spontaneously and yet with a built-in amazing order, and an inner organization. [...]

[...] Spontaneity knows its own order.

[...] The world’s parts come spontaneously together, with an order that basically defies the smaller laws of cause and effect, or before and afterward. [...]

[...] The writer only knows that he or she creates without understanding the spontaneous order with which the creativity happens. [...]

From the “chaotic” bed of your dreams springs your ordered daily organized action. [...] Unpredictability, looking at itself in a variety of different fashions, finds certain portions of itself significant, and forms certain orders, or ordered sequences, about itself. [...] Only unpredictability can provide the greatest source of probable orders.

Now: Only out of unpredictability can an infinite number of orders, or ordered systems, arise.

Anything less than complete unpredictability will ultimately result in stagnation, or orders of existence that in the long run are self-defeating. [...] Only within complete freedom of motion is any “ordered” motion truly possible.

Give us a moment … True order and organization, even of biological structure, can be achieved only by granting a basic unpredictability. [...]

[...] (A one-minute pause.) As the physical planets move in order while being individual, so there can be a social order that is based upon the integrity of the individual. But that order would recognize the inner validity that is within the self; and the inner order, unseen, that forms the integrity of the physical body, likewise would form the integrity of the social body. [...]

[...] All order rises out of the creative elements of unpredictability. [...]

[...] He would encourage the patient to tune into the private oracle in order to ascertain his or her own purposes in physical life, and to reinforce spiritual strength. [...]

[...] Framework 2 combines order and spontaneity, but its order is of another kind. It is a circular, associative, “naturally ordering process,” in which spontaneity automatically exists in the overall order that will best fulfill the potentials of consciousness.

[...] In order to endure, the planet itself must be involved in constant change and instability. [...]

[...] I’m not claiming the dream inspired his material for tonight’s session, or that it was precognitive, in that I’d “picked up” on his subject matter for tonight, and constructed the dream around a portion of it in order to give myself that particular information. [...]

(The lunch tray was late—1:40 PM—and then it wasn’t what we’d ordered. [...]

It is an excellent sign that as portions of the body are released they move spontaneously, following their own order—but they do move with remarkable ease, even while other portions of the body are slowly beginning to release themselves. [...]

Again, the body knows the proper order, so that everything will come together in preparation for sitting, standing, and walking. [...]

[...] As I massaged her with Oil of Olay I told Jane that I’d stopped giving her body specific suggestions—say, that a hand could open up—because according to Seth’s material the body had its own order and schedule for showing improvements, and I’d become wary of giving suggestions that might conflict with that schedule. [...]

Donald may be so terrified of making choices, so indecisive, that he constructs an imaginary superbeing who orders him to do thus and so. If a decision comes up on a job, for example, then the superbeing will order Donald to take one course or another. [...]

[...] A person may become so frightened of using his or her own power of choice or action that the construction of an artificial superbeing is created — a seemingly sublime personage who gives orders to the individual involved.

[...] In such circumstances an individual might then construct an artificial devil or demon who annoys him constantly, and even orders acts of a highly destructive nature.

[...] In your terms, and practically speaking, they could be damaged if they were suddenly released out of order, having to bear the body’s weight.

This way the order is progressive and dependable. [...]

[...] It follows the unconscious order that is within it even as there is a definite order, relationship and limit to the number of chromosomes. [...]

[...] In cancer cells the growth principle runs wild; within creaturehood each of the species has its place, and if one multiplies out of its proper order then all life and the body of the earth itself comes into peril.

1. Antibodies are proteins manufactured in the body in order to neutralize toxic substances. [...]

(I’d ordered a turkey dinner to go with Jane’s. They weren’t bad, although my pie was left off the order. [...]

[...] No matter what any impediments may seem to be, they have to be set aside in order to attain that larger goal. [...]

An adult under the same circumstances might become injured to avoid a dreaded event at the office — but the adult may well feel ashamed of such a reaction, and so hide it from himself or herself in order to save feelings of self-esteem. [...]

All of this, of course, applies to Ruburt’s situation — for once, indeed, he willed himself into immobility, willing to sacrifice certain kinds of motion in order to safely use other kinds of psychological motion, because he was afraid of his spontaneous nature, or his spontaneous self.

[...] Now he is beginning to understand that his energy is the gift of his life — to be expressed, not repressed — and to understand, again, that spontaneity knows its own order.

He just told you that when he begins to speak for me he senses an entire tall structure of words, and unhesitatingly he lets that structure form (intently). The same is true with his ability to move and walk; the more he trusts his energy, the more his spontaneity forms its own beautiful order that results in the spontaneous physical art of walking — and he is indeed well along the way. [...]

Each personality takes on certain challenges and deals with them in its own order. I want you to understand that Ruburt’s recovery is following its own order, yet also to reassure you that that recovery is assured, and will not take much time, as long as you do not expect it to be instantaneous.

[...] They are still strong and vital, but they are being released gently, in a certain order. [...]

There can be order without a succession of moments. There can be order, believe it or not, without your cause and effect. There can be order, and there is order, in spontaneity, and in the simultaneous existence of the spacious present.

Order is one of the most basic attributes of all reality, and order is an inherent attribute in all things. [...]