“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] It is natural for a child to be curious about suffering, to want to know what it is, to see it—and by doing so he (or she) learns to avoid the suffering he does not want, to help others avoid suffering that they do not want, and to understand, more importantly, the gradations of emotion and sensation that are his heritage. [As an adult] he will not inflict pain upon others if he understands this, for he will allow himself to feel the validity of his own emotions.

[...] To her surprise he sounded weaker than he had the last time she’d spoken to him, and at his request my planned visit tomorrow was put off until Friday afternoon.

[...] I’ve recorded six of those long and complicated dreams, set in my hometown, since December 22; in them I explored my various, sometimes contradictory beliefs about writing and painting, my relationships with society and the marketplace, and with my [deceased] father as he represented certain other beliefs. [...]

[...] “In your heart Sayre stands for your childhood,” he said in conclusion, “and to that extent, to you personally, for the childhood of all men. [...]

[...] (Pause.) He has been taught that it is manly to be aggressive, but he believes that this means fighting. As an adult, he frowns upon fighting. He cannot hit his boss, though he may want to. At the same time his church may tell him to turn the other cheek when he is upset, and to be kind, gentle and understanding.

[...] He spends his life trying to hide what he thinks of as aggressive — violent — behavior, and trying to be understanding and kind instead. [...] Because he is trying to be so understanding our man inhibits the expression of many of the normal irritations that would serve as a natural system of communication between, say, his superior and himself at work, or perhaps with the members of his family at home.

[...] He might suddenly find himself in a fight — initiating one — and the smallest incident may serve as a trigger. He could seriously hurt himself or someone else.

[...] A man who is sure of himself is not angry at every slight done him, nor does he carry grudges. [...]

[...] He would (pause), had I not emerged, written books of his own in any case. He would have encountered no unusual obstacles as far as his public stance was concerned, in that he would have felt the rather characteristic dilemma of some creative writers, who must assimilate the private and public portions of their experiences. He would have had no unusual difficulty, however, in say, standing up for his own ideas—holding his own, so to speak, in any arguments or philosophies. [...]

(9:40.) In that regard he felt that he was violating an important cultural taboo, and embarked upon a program that would necessitate caution, self-protection, and a certain detachment. He was determined to go ahead, because his own value fulfillment sought those directions—such was his nature. My published works, however, presented him with what he felt to be a public stance in a different fashion than his own would (louder). [...]

He would have been in that case operating himself within the recognizable framework of psychological identity, being himself within the context of personality structure as it would be defined by all. He feels quite competent with his own books. They begin by giving some verbal tribute to old definitions, and then take off from there, having firmly established the fact that he is more or less in the same kettle of fish. [...]

[...] He is not cowardly in that regard (as Jane had speculated during our discussion). He was, in fact, quite daring in refusing to accept the conventional spirit-guide dogma—which would at least have given him a kind of psychological covering (all emphatically. [...]

[...] He always ran as a child to make sure that he could move at all. [...]

It does not matter whether the car is old or new, as long as he has one, and it is for this reason that he fights any of your suggestions that you do without one. [...]

Your father would like to kick at old cars, for he felt that they defied him since they worked improperly. [...] He gladly settles on an old car—anything that moves will do. [...]

He is doing very well. He will automatically improve. [...]

[...] It is very important that he understand and trust such occurrences. He does feel isolated and frightened sometimes under those conditions. [...] He can help himself by remembering what I am saying, by exercising gently at such times, and by remembering the miraculous processes within the body that are indeed supporting him.

“Now,” Seth said when he resumed the session at 10:13, “Ruburt’s body is trying to right itself. When he lies down, it is trying to straighten out. [...]

(Long pause at 9:44.) It is probably almost impossible for man to see that he forms the idea of historical context through his own associations and focuses. [...]

(Long pause at 9:55.) The Christ story in the beginning was not nearly as singular and neat as it might now seem, for the finally established official Christ figure was one settled upon from endless versions of a god-man, with which man’s psyche has long been involved: He was the psychic composite, the official Christ, carrying within his psychological personage echoes of old and new gods alike—a figure barely begun, comma, to be filled out in time, although originating outside of it (again, all very intently).

[...] He’d bought a flash gadget several months ago to use with it, and he hadn’t tried it out yet. Now he told me he had one exposure left, and he wanted to take a snapshot of me to use it up.

He had been fussing with the camera at the other end of the house from the den. [...] Yet here he stood, camera and all.

[...] He looked supercool in his cut-off denim shorts; his long hair curled into natural corkscrews, his light durable frame seeming to luxuriate in the heat while my light durable frame turned into a sponge that added ten pounds of fatigue.

[...] He was saying that we were immersed in “magic” no matter what we called it, that manifestations of telepathy, and so forth, were just places where our magic “showed.” [...]

(Seth reiterated some of the earlier material he has given us, concerning proofs, apparitions, etc. Once again he went into the reasons why it was possible for Bill Macdonnel to see Seth’s apparition during the 68th session for July 6,1964. [...] The gist of tonight’s material on this subject was that Bill allowed his intuitions enough freedom so that he was able to see the apparition for over an hour and to make several drawings of it; by the same token Jane and I were unable to see the apparition because we tried to intellectualize it. [...]

[...] However when she resumed Seth stated that she had drunk too much and that he did not like to work with Ruburt under such conditions. He would therefore end the session. He gave Ann Diebler a few lines of data concerning her friend in Virginia, which she wrote out. [...]

(As he stated in the 68th and 170th sessions, Seth said that should he materialize in full view in the middle of the room it would not be considered as evidence by those who did not wish to believe it possible; they would ascribe it to mass hallucination, etc. [...]

That determination and that faith also let him see (long pause) how far from healthy, normal behavior he had come. Earlier, he had been afraid to realize that distance. This did arouse still more faith and determination, but he was then faced with that realization he had not encountered earlier, and he saw how long it had been since he had enjoyed anything like normal mobility.

[...] He wants to keep her on the Bactrim for a couple more days. [...]

[...] Nor has he ever referred to my question about whatever reincarnational influences might be operating with Jane.

Inspiration comes when he is relaxed. [...] He can understand that the best way to use his abilities to their fullest is to relax his body and his mind, to allow both greater freedom, and to exert both. [...]

(9:37.) Ruburt needs your help once again to reassure him that relaxation is safe, that it is safe to let go, that he will not fall into darkness, that his muscles will actually become stronger as they relax, and that his creativity rises to the surface when his body and mind are more relaxed. [...]

[...] He cannot be so concerned about Work capitalized, and underlined four times—that it devours his being, or there will be no work. His being must freely express itself, and part of that expression will be the fulfillment of his abilities—those about which he has been so deeply concerned.

[...] He has shown himself (Jane held her right arm out; in the last couple of days it has straightened out noticeably) that the body can change—that alternate realities can alter the present that you know, and that new intent can alter a life.

[...] So will his “work” be enriched and fulfilled—but because he is joyfully himself. [...]

[...] That is, he will be involved but not discovered. She will know, however, that he has been taking the drugs again but will not betray him.

[...] Ruburt is so preciously guarding me, and so afraid that what I say may not prove true at all, that he does a beautiful job of blocking me when he gets the chance.

[...] He has always been independent, impatient and stubborn. If he were not, I could speak through him in a much clearer voice. [...]

[...] He supposes that when he does not see a chair the chair does not exist; and my dear friends, the boy in this case is smarter than the man.

[...] He keeps shooting. [...] He begins to disintegrate until he’s just a hulk of a hand, shooting the gun at me, which now I’m holding—since his body is gone. [...]

[...] I visited him after leaving Jane at 7:00 p.m. He looked and talked much better. Joe expressed concern about how long he would live with his cancer. He also described a dream he’s had often during the last three months, but hasn’t told Margaret about. [...] He agreed with my explanation, which I offered quite diplomatically. [...]

[...] If such a person begins to succeed, then he or she is forcibly reminded of the equally dominant need for lack of success — for again, the person believes that self-expression is necessary and desirable while also being highly dangerous, and thus to be avoided.

He was a dear and loyal friend in another life, and you felt that he betrayed you, but he did not. [...]

He had no conscious purpose at all. He acted, however, as you unconsciously expected him to act. [...]

He was not a priest in a past life, he was a sailor. [...]

[...] Why is he suggesting it and how much harm or good will it do? [...] If he believes that the health food will help, then the health food will help. [...]

“Ruburt became afraid that if he went too far he would discover that he had catapulted himself into a realm where both questions and answers were meaningless. To do that is one thing, but to take others with you would be, he felt, unforgivable—and in the framework of those fears, as his work became better known he became even more cautious.

[...] As mentioned earlier, because of Ruburt’s background he feared abandonment often. It seemed to him that he did not offer what most men expected of women, so that if he wanted a good lifelong companion he had to tread lightly. He felt that many of his own characteristics were considered disadvantageous in a man-woman relationship.”

[...] Difficulties arise, however, in book dictation on those occasions when he becomes too heavy-handed and worries about the responsibility of helping to solve the world’s problems—about his or my capacities in that regard—and when he considers the possible and various objections that any given subject might activate on the part of any given group of people. [...] Sometimes I insert the particular material in your private sessions first of all, so that he becomes somewhat acclimated to it.”⁶

6. Seth went on to say in that session for February 17, 1980: “The only other times there are any such difficulties also involve responsibility, when he concentrates upon his responsibility to hold the sessions—that is, when he focuses upon need, function, or utility as separate from other issues involved. Such feelings can then for a while override his natural inclinations, his natural enjoyment and excitement with which he otherwise views our sessions.

[...] There is no way to probe the realities of consciousness except that a personality travels through all levels of consciousness open to him, and do so in such a way that he can retain and apply the information that he receives in these inner travels.

He appears unusually tired this evening. He says “Now see here, Seth, let’s have something definite,” and puts his hand out, like this.

[...] He turns to the left now, and reaches up high, and takes down an object. [...] It was given to him by the man with whom he was speaking the other evening, by the water, as we mentioned then.

And now, if Ruburt worries that he does not carry his share of the work load, because you spend so much time typing our sessions, then the work of typing the dream experiences, both his and your own, shall be his. [...]

Last night, as I began typing Monday’s 915th session, I asked Jane why Seth hadn’t just called his “invisible particles” CU’s, or units of consciousness, as he’d done earlier in Dreams,² and as he’d always done in his other books. [...] In order to help Jane feel better, I speculated that he must have had his reasons for doing this, and that of course a certain amount of repetition is necessary in each book in a series: The restatements not only furnish a foundation for new material, but enable each book to be complete in itself. [...]

[...] I told Jane now that he’d offered us another hint tonight. His statement is particularly intriguing because Seth indicated that in his nonphysical reality, “wherever that is,” he’s still developing, just as we are “here on earth.” I added that I’d certainly like him to comment sometime on those “new concepts” he’s about to explore.)

Then, as we waited for a delayed session, Jane received material from Seth in which he very nicely explained his use of “invisible particles” on Monday evening—and since tonight he goes into his reasons for doing so, there’s no need to give them here. [...]

[...] When Joseph (as Seth calls me) read the last session, he wondered whether or not the invisible particles I referred to were the same as the units of consciousness I have spoken of before.

[...] Otherwise he’d come through so loud, so strong—if I could do it—that he’d drown out everything else.... [...]

When Ruburt took your second apartment, he did so taking it on faith and against all physical evidence to the contrary that he would have the money to afford it, and the money came. [...]

[...] They included a projection through the eastern wall of our living room, and a “visitor” who returned with her; the Latin title of a book; her awareness of a third eye; some material, with diagrams, of me as a monk who wrote manuscripts in an underground chamber that he later sealed; a vision of Seth in a brown robe, looking as I’ve painted him—but the brown robe was “too easy,” Jane said suspiciously. [...]

[...] He meant that quite literally. [...]

One small note: A male with growths of any kind — kidney stones or ulcers, for example — has tendencies he considers feminine, and therefore “dependent,” of which he is ashamed. In a mock biological ceremony, he gives birth to the extent that he produces within his body material that was not there before. [...]

[...] The male, then, is thought to want sex whether or not he has any love response to the woman in question — or sometimes to desire her precisely because he does not love her. [...]

(“I’m not up to it tonight,” Jane said, “but there’s lots of material he could give on the ulcer thing right now. [...] Maybe I should take a short break and see if he’ll come back, instead of ending the session….”

(Long pause.) Give us a moment… In almost all such cases involving cancer, spiritual and psychic growth is being denied, or the individual feels that he or she can no longer grow properly in personal, psychic, terms. [...]

“If you keep these channels open and free, you will get material that is as undistorted as possible,” he said. [...] … You and he must see to it that Ruburt does not color his experiences through reading material that is distorted. [...] He continued, suggesting that I stay away from books that “deal exclusively with conventional religious subjects, interpreting reality in those limited terms.”

[...] He is the connective between us, and he has been a part of me that I have sent out to you. He has participated willingly.”

“Yes,” Rob said, but he spoke almost automatically; the delivery had quickened, and he was having trouble keeping up with the notes. [...]

[...] Seth as you knew him will also be Seth as you know him, for whether or not I speak as myself or through him, he is still the intermediary and the connection between us. More, he will still appear as you have known him. [...]