“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] I was in trance, of course, but, knowing him, I can well imagine how he must have stared at me as I strode back and forth speaking in that deep Seth voice and talking to Rob in such a manner. When Rob explained briefly about Seth before the session, he’d asked Mark questions he’d like answered. Mark said that he was interested in the connection between consciousness and evolution. [...]

[...] He was to attend many other sessions. Whether or not he and Seth were friends in a past life, they became good friends in this one. [...] He was to recall Seth’s warning to cut down on drinking because of his predisposition to gout; he came down with gouty arthritis.

[...] He has achieved a state in which he can receive inner data from me more readily. But beyond that, he is now able in some small way to contact me. That is, I have contacted you in the past, and now he is gaining the ability to contact me.

[...] He suggested that the bed be placed with the head at the north, for example, and made other comments. He said that many of my needs were really based on fears which would have to be faced as time went by, and he discussed several of them in the session. Then he said,

[...] Seth then told Bill he saw him living until around 85, with Peggy equally old. [...] This is the first time he has given me any specific age, although in several previous sessions, among them the 149th and the 217th, he has mentioned my living to an old age. In the 105th session, among others, he stated that Jane’s death was not “to occur for many years.” [...]

(Bill Gallagher asked Seth about a possible operation for his ulcers, although he has been feeling well. Seth replied that he saw no operation for Bill, should present trends continue, and that Bill should surmount the ulcer problem eventually. [...]

[...] Seth prefaced this by saying something about “I see a breathing difficulty.” He went on to say that Ruburt was upset at this information, and that her relatively early death simply meant she had to work harder in this life. [...] Seth said he was having trouble getting this information through.

[...] After saying that Jane would live into her eighties also, he said that we would be instrumental in offering conclusive evidence for the survival of the personality after physical death. Without naming names, he told me that the one of us dying first would succeed in communicating with the surviving partner in such a way that the results would give conclusive proof “to the masses.”

[...] To do all the things that he should do, to put in the writing hours that he should, inspired writing hours, then he must automatically be in good health, you see. By seeing himself doing this and by imagining it vividly, he is taking good health for granted, and this of course is what he must do.

Let him remember that when he is entirely engrossed in discussing our work or explaining it, he hardly knows he has any symptoms at all—this even when his attitudes may not be of the best at any given time.

[...] He had many questions for Seth, which that gentleman answered with his usual aplomb.)

Your good reverend was far more impressed after his visit, and he will speak about our work to many others. [...]

Ruburt was highly creative, and so following the beliefs of his time, he believed that he must watch his creativity most carefully, for he was determined to use it. He decided early to have no children—but more, to fight any evidence of femininity that might taint his work, or jumble up his dedication to it. He loved you deeply, and does, but he always felt he had to tread a slender line, so as to satisfy the various needs and beliefs that you both had to one extent or another, and those you felt society possessed.

He was creative, and is. Yet he felt that women were inferior, and that his very abilities made him vulnerable, that he would be ridiculed by others, that women were not taken seriously as profound thinkers, or innovators in philosophical matters.

[...] Though he conveniently forgot [Edgar] Cayce, for example, who was a trance master. And yet at the same time he was afraid of exerting power, for fear it would be thought that he was usurping male prerogatives. [...]

[...] In Ruburt’s case the fear was greater, until it seemed sometimes that if he succeeded in his work he would succeed at some peril: you might be put in an unpleasant light, or he might become a fanatic, displaying those despicable, feminine hysterical qualities. [...]

Ruburt (Jane) was highly creative, and so following the beliefs of his time, he believed that he must watch his creativity most carefully, for he was determined to use it. He decided early to have no children — but more, to fight any evidence of femininity that might taint his work, or jumble up his dedication to it. He loved you deeply and does, but he always felt he had to tread a slender line, so as to satisfy the various needs and beliefs that you both had to one extent or another, and those you felt society possessed. He was creative, and is. Yet he felt that women were inferior, and that his very abilities made him vulnerable, that he would be ridiculed by others, that women were not taken seriously as profound thinkers, or innovators in philosophical matters.

The trance itself had feminine connotations, though he conveniently forgot [several excellent male mediums]. And yet at the same time he was afraid of exerting power, for fear it would be thought that he was usurping male prerogatives.

[...] In Ruburt’s case the fear was greater, until it seemed sometimes that if he succeeded in his work he would do so at some peril: You might be put in an unpleasant light, or he might become a fanatic, displaying those despicable, feminine hysterical qualities.

[...] He is not a god of creativity.

[...] He never forgets a slight. [...] He was not loyal, in those terms, to Walter Zeh, or he would still be with him. Ruburt is spontaneous—but if he were all that spontaneous he would be walking better. [...]

[...] He saw that the feeling itself was the culprit. He disapproved of himself because of his condition, or so he thought, and he has felt that way often. [...]

In your terms, with time, historically, he began to lose this identification, so that an emotional separation began to occur between man and the elements, between man and the other manifestations of nature. He still sensed nature’s grandeur—(louder:) but that grandeur was no longer his own, and he felt less and less a part of it. [...]

When man identified with nature, as given in Psyche, he did not imagine that the gods disapproved of him when storms lashed across the landscape. He did not at that time, as is supposed, do sacrifice then to win the gods’ approval. [...]

He is himself a person who brought about a vital breakthrough in his own knowledge, an acceleration of creativity quite extraordinary, that led to these sessions, and these sessions have literally expanded the realities of many, many people. [...] He has however thus far not nearly utilized the information that he has, and in the meantime he became frightened that his will had little power to change the course of events.

Because Ruburt was the person most involved, he became in a way the most critical. Therefore to some extent he has not been able to use the ideas on his own behalf nearly as effectively as he might.

In that regard he becomes overly conscientious. [...] Because of that attitude, however, and because of the critical—or, rather, overly critical stance—he has held himself more aloof than necessary from using the material itself. [...]

Ruburt is back to writing, which means that he has made inroads again. He has been emphasizing the problem, which adds to the feeling of hopelessness. [...]

(“The insight also reminds me of one of my questions for Seth: I plan to ask him for hints about what sort of ideas he would advance if he’s given the freedom to do so by Jane. He’s already alluded to this notion through a rather recent reference to the fact that he “toned down” some of his material for Mass Events in order to make it more acceptable. [...]

[...] When he is effortlessly creating a poem he is not worried that he is relaxing too much, or going too far, or giving up control. Instead, he is letting go by going with himself (all intently)—and that attitude makes all the difference. [...]

It often seems to him that to relax is to be lax, to let down, do nothing, achieve nothing, as if spontaneously left alone he would be lazy, unambitious, and again lax. He has those feelings and fears. [...] Under the circumstances he is handling them rather well. [...]

[...] He should try to talk with you, however, when he is anxious, to foreshorten such periods. [...]

[...] He felt that he betrayed himself, that he performed acts that he should not perform in order to fit into its context, and he felt that he must do so in order to survive. [...]

[...] Bill, however, concentrated upon life’s regrettable elements, upon the impediments, the dishonesties and so forth, until it seemed that even if he followed the world’s way he could not succeed. His idea of manliness was such that he insisted upon a conventional job, clear-cut.

[...] Bill feels that his business productive life is coming to an end, when he will retire. He spoke of the values that existed when he was young in the world, that now are gone. [...]

[...] He did not ascribe to Rome’s religion, or really agree with its government, and he felt that taxes simply represented money given to rogues and thieves to enrich the pockets of the wealthy. He himself believed in austerity. [...]

There may be areas in which he realizes he is not adequate, yet because of his belief in his basic worth he will be able to accept these lacks as a part of himself without feeling threatened by them. He will be able to try to improve his condition without knocking himself down at the same time.

[...] His life constantly reinforces this concept, and while he is peripherally aware that some people are “nicer” than others, his main intimate experience allows him to see the best in others and in himself. This becomes one of the strong frameworks through which he views existence.

Data or stimuli that does not agree is a side issue, not personally applicable but present, he realizes, as fact for others. He will not need to prove himself, so it will be easier for him to accept contemporaries with fairness.

Now: In those terms he may or may not be as attractive, feature by feature, as some other individuals who believe, in fact, that they are unattractive. [...] The person does not believe that he or she possesses it, and mars the actual physical features so that the comeliness becomes literally invisible.

He spoke honestly when he said that he considered it intellectual suicide to accept even the possibility of personal survival of death. The conflict brought him to a point where he simply could go no further intellectually, for the intellect would not follow where the intuitions led. [...]

As he himself suspected, there has been a personality reorganization on Jane’s part, and for the abilities to be used fully, such reorganization was necessary. [...] He recognized this, feeling that while he highly enjoyed science fiction it was a dead end, for the answers he sought could not be worked out even through philosophical fiction.

[...] The search for answers, and this passionate yearning toward truth, has driven Ruburt’s personality, and he became ill only when he was afraid to continue the search, because it led him into byways that he had not planned upon; or rather, upon which the ego had not planned.

He is quite free to question the basis of the sessions, and to question my own source. (Pause.) But he did not even do this with any true (underlined) logic, while he distrusted himself, or distrusted the intuitive and revelationary (underlined) aspect of the material. [...]

[...] The condition catches him frequently when he attempts to breathe deeply. He was afraid the chapter would catch him up, just when he was ready to relax and let go, a deep breath signifying a breath of relief. He should be able you see to take a deep breath of relief, and feel relaxed because the chapter is completed, and he knows well he can follow through with the book. But he was afraid to grant himself that release for the old fears of rejection stop him.

He is attempting to hide from himself the importance he feels connected to the chapter he has just finished and will send to Mossman. [...]

[...] He did not want to admit the importance of the chapter, although he knows it is good. He did not want to send it out for fear it would come back—underline back.

When he does not use the pendulum it is obviously a symptom that there is something he does not want to face, and that for the time he will accept the symptoms. [...]

[...] Ruburt does not have to displace himself to the same degree that he does in our sessions, so he is more aware of (three dots) . [...] In our case he almost “becomes” the material he receives. If certain other beneficial alterations occur, and further understanding on Ruburt’s part, we may be able to meet at other levels of consciousness, in the dream state, when he is not cooperating in the production of our material. [...]

[...] He should follow any inclinations toward certain foods at this time. He has also done well in trusting his inclinations toward work, exercise, and relaxation, for the mind-body relationship will work as a unit. [...]

Ruburt is just beginning his own dream endeavors—which could not seriously begin until he learned to have faith in his own being. [...]

[...] Ruburt’s state of consciousness is different when he approaches Seven.

[...] He likes privacy as well as you do. He told himself he should be calm when Tam came, and trust himself and not be concerned, which is very logical. In so doing, however, he ignored his feelings to some extent. [...] So he was concerned. [...]

[...] He does communicate to those salesmen, and to others with whom he comes in contact. He believes in our work, and that, I tell you, is the most important element of all as far as a publishing house is concerned.

[...] You have added to the nature of his consciousness, but then so has he added, in his way, to the nature of yours.

[...] Measured work of that nature is very difficult for Ruburt—hence the typing, for example of manuscripts, such as mine, that he cannot change as he goes along, is very difficult. When he types his own work he makes creative changes.

[...] Otherwise, it was because he did not want to type up my book. Creatively, now, he is always interested in the new book—the current creative act, and he resented feeling that he had to type Psyche while not having current sessions. [...]

He kept it to protect himself and to protect you, artistically and economically, so that for example you would not have a child to support or to turn you from your lone purpose. The intuitions are regarded in your society as female—and as a writer he felt he had to guard against female impulses or characteristics —against being too frivolous or emotional.

[...] He becomes afraid of being ostracized. [...] He took you too literally.

He told his students that he felt as if he were between worlds, and he was. The answer in this case was not given in words, and at first he did not realize that his experience was as much of an answer as he could be given now.

[...] He could not go far enough into that concept, but he was briefly between physical existences as you know them.

[...] He waits and I find him up there, where before he [meaning Seth] came all the way down to me.”

[...] (Pause.) Seth has told me that in some future, in your terms, he would help me in this regard; bringing me closer, he said, for a good look. [...]

(10:55.) On the other hand, he is human, in that he is a portion of each individual; and within the vastness of his experience he holds an “idea-shape” of himself as human, to which you can relate. He literally was made flesh to dwell among you, for he forms your flesh in that he is responsible for the energy that gives vitality and validity to your private multidimensional self, which in turn forms your image in accordance with your own ideas.

Now: God is more than the sum of all the probable systems of reality he has created, and yet he is within each one of these, without exception. He is therefore within each man and woman. He is also within each spider, shadow, and frog, and this is what man does not like to admit.

[...] He was — like all the other disciples — a blessed, created “fragment personality,” formed by the Christ personality. He represented the self-betrayer. He dramatized a portion of each individual’s personality that focuses upon physical reality in a grasping manner, and denies the inner self out of greed.

[...] He is not male or female, however, and I use the terms only for convenience’s sake. In the most inescapable truth, he is not human in your terms at all, nor in your terms is he a personality. [...]

[...] In a way, Jack found it inconceivable that he should die. He wondered at first why Elizabeth did not perceive him, and he remained unconscious of his own funeral. He did perceive such a light (as I sensed)—the light of understanding.

[...] I asked her now to dictate to me exactly what she wanted me to record: “Now he’s telling us that to take conscious control of your beliefs and life and everything does involve a new manipulation of consciousness, where I’d been knocking my guts out thinking it should be something you can do real easy. [...] After all these books he tells us that. [...] “Like now he’s saying ‘Well, there are a few difficulties involved,’ where before it all seemed so easy. [...]

[...] Most of all, however, he has identified of late with what he thinks of as his failure.

He became afraid of trying again to disrupt the old patterns. [...] Ruburt is often afraid he has little control over the situation. [...]

[...] “Now he rationalizes his desire not to leave home. [...] He has chosen in this life to be of service to them and to help others. His secrecy [he was very tight-lipped] is the result of these past experiences. Once he feels he spoke too much and betrayed too much. Now he is secretive about matters he considers important.”

Seth rarely gives reincarnational data unless it is directly tied in with the overall development of an individual’s present life, and he refuses to give past life histories, for example, to those he thinks will not apply the lessons involved. Strangely enough, he did give such information once in a class to three college girls who clearly did not believe in reincarnation to begin with. [...]

[...] But in both cases the personality was filled with an inner dread, to some extent resenting those he helped. If he were out helping others, then who would mind the store? He was afraid his stock would be gone.

[...] He would not look out, and no one dared look in. He would make horrible funny faces at the window of his soul to frighten others away. [...] He ‘added to his stock.’

[...] He varied the depth of my trances during tests so I could get the feel of various stages of consciousness, and also showed me how to let him use my own personal associations in order to get certain data. He used the tests to demonstrate ESP; but more, he gave me constant practice in changing my subjective focus, explaining the whole thing as he went along.

[...] He used all kinds of things for test items, some that I had seen, recently or in the past, and some that I had never seen. He might use a letter, for example, that had come the day before, and which I had read, or a bill from several years back, or an item he picked up that I had never seen, or an envelope prepared by a friend—in which case the contents were unknown even to Rob. [...] Other times he purposely used neutral objects. [...]

[...] He wore a business suit and hat, and carried a briefcase. As I watched, he crossed a blacktop expanse to a sidewalk, and entered a large building on the other side of the motel. I remember thinking it odd that he wore business clothes in what I took to be a resort area. [...]

[...] I took it for granted that he wouldn’t consider that we had any scientific evidence, but we did have the nearly identical sketches, and the impressions were correct. “He may not consider this scientific enough,” I said to Rob, “but he has to admit, at the very least, that clairvoyance occurred.”