“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

You have in the Trinity Father, Son and Holy Ghost. [...] He is a son, and then a father, and always within him he feels that part or inner self which cannot be seen by another, which is neither father nor son, but which is within him while he is father, and while he is son.

[...] Jane said she felt carried away, as she had been in the Father Trainor episode. [...] During this experiment, while reading some poetry aloud that the now-dead Father Trainor had often read to her when she was in high school, Jane’s voice had taken on an enormous male volume and strength. [...] Jane said it was Father Trainor’s voice, at times, or a close approximation. I can only say it was not the Seth voice; I had never known Father Trainor.

[...] She was very pleased at recognizing the feeling of the Father Trainor episode. [...]

[...] Methuselah was the father of Lamech (777 years), who was the father of Noah (950 years).

[...] Also, a given father-son relationship may have actually been one between a father and a great-great-grandson, for example. [...]

[...] There were many unfortunate misuses of the old system of having a son follow in his father’s footsteps, yet the son at a young age was given meaningful work to do, and felt a part of life’s mainstream. [...]

Your father’s creativity, as mentioned (in other sessions), before, had its side of secrecy, privacy and aloneness. Again as mentioned, you identified creativity with your father’s private nature. [...]

[...] Father’s secrecy and my identification. [...]

[...] Your father’s inventiveness would also be used in the same manner, as source material, by whichever self you chose to become. [...]

[...] For one reason, you identified your painting creative self with your father, and you felt that he had had to protect his creative self in the household from your mother. [...]

[...] Father Trainor, in the photograph we have of him, was a very heavyset man. [...] Father Trainor was Irish.

[...] After the conversation had turned to matters psychic, Jane played the tape recording of the Father Trainor episode of last February 11. [...]

[...] On the tape she manifested many voice changes, while reading G. K. Chesterton’s narrative poem Lepanto, that were quite reminiscent of the way the deceased Father Trainor had read it. [...]

[...] Almost at once it became apparent that the psychic phenomenon taking place, whether or not it involved a medium’s contact with Father Trainor, was much superior to the version already on tape.

When my father, Robert Sr., photographed Jane and me on our wedding day, December 27, 1954, and then in 1957, did any of us know that his work would be published almost half a century later?

Jane’s father, Del, photographed her in 1951, when she was 22. [...]

Jane and I had been married for three months when my father photographed her in March 1955.

[...] You identified as a child whose presence betrayed its father, your father being forced to support you, particularly in the Depression. [...]

Your father was inventive, his creativity in that line you felt dwarfed by family responsibility. [...]

[...] He also, that is Ruburt also, felt the violence that is a part of his father’s personality. [...] The father had completely disappeared. To the child the father simply vanished from the face of the earth, an equally fearful fate.

[...] Your father’s aggressiveness, normal male aggressiveness, was blocked up, and directed against your mother. [...]

You are also angry at Ruburt’s docility because it reminds you of your father’s lack of aggression in his business dealings. [...]

[...] There are unfortunate connections with your father however, that might at first mitigate against your enjoyment, though old experience with the land would soon come back to you.

It was the religious connection at your father’s funeral that upset him. [...]

(Her father, Del, had died on November 16, at 7:30 AM, in Daytona Beach, Florida. [...]

Ruburt’s father is with his mother from this life. [...]

Ruburt’s father was very bound to his mother. [...]

New paragraph: When racial conditions require it, it is quite possible for an individual to both father and mother a child.^* In such cases, what you would call complete spontaneous sexual reverses or transformations would occur. [...] Even in your world, currently speaking, some individuals known as women could father their own children.

Some individuals known as men could give birth to a child fathered by the same person — could (underlined). [...]

[...] The father connection, legitimate but not pertinent. He had vainly daydreamed that his father might send unexpected money, with which he could complete that set of dishes to which the pepper shaker belongs.

[...] And connects this with his father.

[...] And connects this with his father.” [...]

(There is also a father connection here, as Seth explains with the salt and pepper shakers and the new set of dishes to which they belong.

(On Friday at 1 PM on February 5, my father died. [...]

[...] The first on Tuesday, February 9 concerns my shaky hand and my father. [...]

This began at the gallery when your father and mother first stated that money would be needed, and very shortly after your return from Florida. [...]

[...] He did fear that you would become bitter if you did not succeed (as a painter), and he sometimes felt that you retreated to the studio away from him, as purposely your father retreated from your mother into the cellar or garage. [...]

We are bringing some beliefs out in to the open, yours as well as Ruburt’s. You identified in many respects with your father, though often you felt forced to take your mother’s part. [...]

You would not be shunted aside as your mother shunted your father. [...]

In his own way your father was saying “Since you do not trust my creativity I will deny you its benefits, even if I deny myself its benefits”—this to your mother; and you picked up a taboo: you could make money on art as long as you felt it was not really (underlined) creative—that is, commercial. [...]

[...] After all, we do have money; money also is due from her father’s estate, royalties, Rich Bed eventually, and the sale of paperback rights by Prentice-Hall; ESP class also helps—Jane said she enjoys the class. [...]

[...] During the evening we played some tapes also, and among these was one of the recordings Jane made of G. K. Chesterton’s poem Lepanto; Jane was in a trance state while reading this, apparently in a close approximation of the voice of her now dead friend, Father Trainor. Lepanto was Father Trainor’s favorite poem. [...]

[...] Jane was extremely attached to her grandfather; she grew up without a father since her parents separated when she was three years old, and her grandfather did his best to fill in the gap. [...]

Father and son.

(“Which one of us was the father?”)

[...] We are speaking of the woman’s husband, or father here. [...] I do not know if this is our young friend’s grandfather, or the grandfather’s father, you see.

With the father, our friend’s father, a connection with motors. [...]

[...] Pete said the back condition mentioned could apply to either his father or brother. [...]

[...] You have a deep distrust of moving, because of your parents’ stationary background, and because of your father’s distrust and fear of the outside world.

You do to some extent identify with your mother, in terms of a husband rather than a son, now that the king, father, has been removed. [...]

You have also picked up your father’s bitterness. [...]

(Elmar, Jane and I take to refer to Jane’s father, Delmer. [...] In this constant questioning about descendants, we wanted to get enough information for Jane to be able to ask her father some questions about his family tree; Jane knows nothing about it, and her father has not discussed it with her. [...]

[...] I was perhaps halfway through achieving the desired state when I became aware of my father in my left-center field of vision. [...] Father shook the newspaper rather emphatically, then spoke a phrase of several words that I have now forgotten. [...]

[...] The new human being is obviously not either the father or the mother, and yet is obviously a construction formed by each from physical matter belonging to each.

[...] These quotes are close to being exact, whereas for some reason I cannot remember at all what Father said.

[...] The son has two children, boys, who look like the son, who looked like his father.

[...] She sometimes sees others, including Jane’s old friend Father Trainor; he is still fat.

[...] The mother left them early, the father a few years later. [...]

[...] Jane’s father, who addressed the envelope, can be “A connection with another individual, a male.” Jane’s father is of course “someone who visited here,” but we do not know what “A photograph” means, particularly, in the test data, since Seth did not elaborate.

[...] The test object was the front of an envelope mailed to us by Jane’s father last July. [...]

[...] Without going into personal details, we can say that Seth is correct when he refers to “A connection with an event that was not particularly pleasant”; this involved us and Jane’s father in Florida.