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You cannot be alive without faith, yet faith can be distorted. There is faith in good, but there is also faith in “evil.” In usual terms faith takes it for granted that a certain desired end will be achieved, even though the means may not be known. In usual terms, again, there is no direct evidence, otherwise you would have no need for faith.

When you fear the worst will happen, you often are showing quite real faith in a backwards fashion, for with no direct evidence before your eyes of disaster, you heartily believe it will occur—you have faith in it (with emphasis and irony). That is, indeed, misplaced faith.

The young woman, Frances (Gardella), who wrote Ruburt, with no evidence was certain she would be followed—tomorrow if not today. I want to point out that faith is not all that unusual, but a prime element in your life. You can have faith that you will be ill. This should be obvious, because for example there are healthy people also, with no evidence of any disease, who have utter faith that disease is hidden within them, or swiftly approaching.

You go on faith that there will be a tomorrow. You operate on faith constantly, so that it becomes indeed an almost invisible element in each life. It is the fiber behind all organizations and relationships, and it is based upon the innate, natural knowledge possessed by each new creature—the knowledge that it springs from a sustaining source, that its birth is cushioned by all the resources of nature, and that nature itself is sustained by the greater source that gave it birth.

[...] I want to point out the efficiency of faith when you feel it, so take advantage of those moments when you feel faith strong in yourself, for at such times you connect with Framework 2 most securely.

Your own faith is also beginning to arouse new confidence in your work, in your painting. Faith does not restrict itself to one area, but shows it effects in all portions of your life.

[...] Without getting involved in contradictions, have him remind himself that the entire process can be easy, and relatively effortless, and will be more so as his faith grows.

Your doubts and fears have their effect, but they do not connect with Framework 2 as securely as faith does, for they do not fit in with the overall, curious and open, courageous elements characteristic of Framework 2’s activities. [...]

(Following a discussion of the above, Sumari came through with a message to Janice, Lawrence and Faith, then to Lawrence, Faith and Natalie. [...]

(During a discussion of this Lawrence said he did not get the whole connection with Faith and Natalie.)

[...] You came back however with your former brother in a wife-husband relationship and the farm connection in your later life has to do with this earlier reincarnational existence, in your terms, in which you (Faith) were very closely involved. [...]

In your joint creativity, you sustained each other’s faith through the years. [...] You were not driven by fear, but desire, not by doubts but by hope and faith. [...] Ruburt has noted sometimes a worry and lack of faith, and so have you. [...]

You are beginning to awaken your faith, but still afraid to believe. Ruburt has had some excellent moments of such faith, however, and those moments add up. [...]

As a child, you are immersed in Framework 2. Along the way you are taught that it is unrealistic to have any kind of faith unless physical evidence is behind it, but then, of course, you are not working with faith at all.

(Attached to this session [see page 76] is the carbon of the suggestions I wrote up recently about reaching Framework 2 through suggestion and faith.

(I have the simple, profound faith that anything I desire in this life can come to me from Framework 2. There are no impediments in Framework 2. Framework 2 can creatively produce everything I desire to have in Framework 1—my excellent health, painting, and writing, my excellent relationship with Jane, Jane’s own spontaneous and glowing physical flexibility and creativity, the greater and greater sales of all of her books. I knew that all of these positive goals are worked out in Framework 2, regardless of their seeming complexity, and that they can then show themselves in Framework 1. I have the simple, profound faith that everything I desire in life can come to me from the miraculous workings of Framework 2. I do not need to be concerned with details of any kind, knowing that Framework 2 possesses the infinite creative capacity to handle and produce everything I can possibly ask of it. My simple, profound faith in the creative goodness of Framework 2 is all that is necessary.)

[...] You must learn to reinforce each other’s faith in Ruburt’s constant improvements, as you have encouraged each other’s faith in your own and each other’s creative abilities.

You have faith in your work. [...]

When Ruburt feels blue he does of course show it, yet he is still worried that such moods will weaken your own faith, and the same applies to you. [...]

I would like Ruburt to make a red star each time during the day he finds himself thinking pleasant or optimistic thoughts, and a large one each day or time he feels a strong surge of faith or exuberance. [...]

Faith itself then becomes an active ingredient in your lives in that regard. That is why your suggestions of today are so vital, stating that you do have faith that Ruburt’s condition is now in the process of being healed in Framework 2, and that the results will show in Framework 1. It is important that you realize that the healing is now taking place in Framework 2 whether or not you see immediate results in any given day or not. That is where faith comes in.

[...] Once you allow your faith to take some root, then you yield far more than you sow in Framework 2, and in results in Framework 1. Positively, you see that kind of acceleration in Ruburt’s work, and if you give yourselves a chance you will see it also as far as Ruburt’s physical condition is concerned. [...] You have only to encourage these, and to have faith in the body’s abilities and intents. [...]

[...] His faith could not take that leap. [...]

[...] Lately I’ve been suggesting to Jane that when she finds herself hassling something she reminds herself that she has “a simple, profound faith that whatever needs to be done for an improvement in my health can take place in Framework 2. There are no impediments in Framework 2. Its creative workings there can show themselves in Framework 1, in my improved physical condition. [...]

(Long pause at 9:05.) He is presently encountering that kind of feeling, uncovering the reasons for it, and trying to recapture in a way the very young innocent self’s sense of faith. That faith existed even before churchly doctrine was imposed over it. He is trying to uncover his own natural faith. [...]

[...] He did indeed become afraid of faith itself. [...]

The body, again, does possess such a natural faith, and it has nothing to do with esoteric methods and so forth—but again deals with a kind of self-evident biological knowledge. [...]

Now unless you come to terms with your own doubts about yourselves then you will have no idea what faith is and when I use the word faith, I am not speaking in religious terms. When you look at your physical reality and see what it is this does not take faith, it is a simple matter of physical perception. When, however, you begin to have glimpses about the nature of reality and realize that you are more than you know that you are now, then it takes faith to bring that inner image close to some actuality, in your terms. [...]

Now when you begin to sense the interior invisible self then in physical terms you begin to act upon what you call faith. [...] Faith, however, is not believing in a unreality, it is believing in realities that you cannot, at this point physically, perceive. [...]

[...] To believe that there is something there to work for is faith. To realize that there is more of yourself than you can physically perceive is faith. [...]

“After writing the above poem I felt a sense of faith—and realized that like many I’d become afraid of faith itself. [...]

To some extent the perspective one, two, three material is related to Frameworks 1 and 2, for the symbols of your mind grow in their own fashion, changing shape and form, but following the emotional content rather faithfully. If you truly understood what I am saying, you would realize the importance of encouraging optimistic, jestful feelings of faith, of cultivating them—for it is far more important to collect them than money. [...]

[...] The last sessions managed to rearouse your faith, but you yourselves must tend it, as indeed, Joseph, you tend your plants. [...]

[...] Her improvements continue, although earlier this week both of us fell off our newfound faith in faith to some degree.)

[...] Your faith has been achieved on that point. [...] Your faith is not secure there either. [...]

[...] They had no idea of faith in the terms of which we are speaking, yet in Framework 2 their desires came about—and not as a result of detective work.

Important Note: I’ve been following Seth’s instructions fairly well, not completely—and today got more good James on Faith: he mentions the extra-normal or super-normal power again. [...]

[...] In a way later, I “put my faith” in Rob as being older, wiser, and so forth, and idealized him. [...]

[...] Nature exists by virtue of faith. The squirrels gather nuts in the faith that they will have provisions, in the faith that the next season will come, and that spring will follow winter. Your impulses are immersed in the quality called faith, for they urge you into action in the faith [that] the moment for action exists. [...]

I am not reprimanding either of you in any manner, nevertheless your failure to take the house represented a lack of what we may call faith, and your work with the material will require faith in the ideas here presented.

[...] However faith in an idea is frowned upon in scientific circles, but no new concept or idea, or discovery, ever came unless there was first faith that it indeed existed.

[...] The material should be copied as faithfully as possible. [...]

If you do not have faith in them, who else shall be expected to? [...]

[...] His faith is the power that neutralizes the fire.

[...] They are the result of the faith you have built up thus far. [...]

Your faith is the answer, and the use to which you put your creativity, for the more you apply it to Ruburt’s condition the quicker the results.

You must not be concerned with time, yet you must have the faith that in your terms of time Ruburt’s normal walking will come in an immediate rather than distant future.

Many birds in their fantastic migrations demonstrate an amazing optimism, traveling thousands of miles to distant shores, almost literally flying by faith, as it were, ignoring all dangers, unbeseiged by doubts. [...] Even if some birds do fall or die, this in no way impedes or undermines the faith of the others.

In all such cases there is an inbred biological faith, that courage and vitality, that biological optimism. [...]

[...] He lost faith in his physical performance, and got out of the habit of asserting himself physically.

In the exercises both will, faith and assertion, come into play in coordinated effort that is met by performance, and by achievement. [...]

[...] Except that as an act of faith you see he should begin to carry out some of those points now.

That determination and that faith also let him see (long pause) how far from healthy, normal behavior he had come. [...] This did arouse still more faith and determination, but he was then faced with that realization he had not encountered earlier, and he saw how long it had been since he had enjoyed anything like normal mobility.

Ruburt began the new program with a sense of determination and faith.

[...] If you can have reason without faith, then indeed, for example, you will see that there can be faith without reason. [...]

Even your poor misguided moral/religious organization is saying in its fashion to the scientifically-oriented society: “How is faith not real, then? [...]