“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] Seth gives her the information visually; it is then up to a part of Jane to correctly interpret this. Jane believes that in the early experiments her failure to appreciate this, to interpret correctly, led to many errors in the material; that actually, through Seth, she had received the correct data to begin with, but needed the practice in fine discrimination to even be aware that the problem existed. [...]

[...] I began to wonder if I was responding to the material Seth was presenting; I had found it very interesting.

(We wondered if Jane’s feeling was due to suggestion. During the week she had been referring to the 68th session as she did some work on the book on the Seth material; these sessions have to do with the construction of physical matter by each individual. [...]

(Bill’s drawings of Seth show an extremely high cranium—according to Seth Bill’s graphic translation of Bill’s feeling of high intelligence on Seth’s part—and a pointed chin. [...]

(“Do you want to deal now with the question about the Dead Sea Scrolls and Yahoshua?” This was in reference to a letter Jane had received on April 12, having to do with Seth’s third-Christ data in The Seth Material.)

[...] We have no way of knowing how long Seth’s reply to a query like Mrs. R’s will be. [...] We ask for a reply, to see if it’s possible to check the material. [...]

[...] Seth finished the session with several pages of material dealing with other matters. [...]

(I recently finished the blue man that Seth refers to. I painted a male in modern garb, but in reality, according to an amused Seth, the subject was a female clairvoyant who lived in Constantinople in the fourteenth century; unconscious distortions in my own perceptions led me to the male figure. Seth has given her the name Ianodiala. [...]

(Seth is correct, and after he mentioned the twine connection Jane and I remembered it. This took place not on January 25, however, but on February 10, when the manuscript on the Seth material and the poetry book were mailed together. But Jane wrote letter #4, concerning the Seth material, on January 25. [...]

[...] It contained the manuscript for the book on the Seth material, plus that of the poetry book. [...] The connection here with the envelope data is the January 25 postmark on the experimental object; Jane discusses the book on the Seth material in letter #4, written on January 25. [...]

[...] In this letter Jane discussed the 200 pages she has finished on her first book on the Seth material itself. [...]

[...] In the 212th session for November 29,1965 Seth discussed various measurements that could be taken from Jane just before, during, and after sessions by a doctor. Father Martin was a doctor before entering the religious life; he knows of the sessions but has not witnessed any or read the material. [...]

(Although we were both tired by the end of the session, I had the feeling that Jane, as Seth, was a bit reluctant to go too much into the affair with Prentice re The Seth Material, and ended the session rather abruptly at that point for that reason. [...]

[...] (To publicize Jane’s The Seth Material.)

[...] I had quite a few questions to ask, but since my anger had still been building up I now did not write them down, or Seth’s answers—which were very good, incidentally. [...] A sharp exchange with Seth followed, and I ended up furious—which I suppose was a good way to blow off steam. Seth insisted that the answers re Jane’s symptoms, and my own contributing attitudes, had already been given in past sessions, but were not being followed.

[...] (A point with which I can disagree.) Now you are dealing, through your creative endeavors, aside even from the psychic work, with highly subjective material; many people are completely unaware for great periods of time of their own mental and emotional states. [...] They are not ready as yet to handle their own subjective material or possibilities. [...]

[...] Jane said that her trance was good, that Seth was coming through fine. She had a sense of energy and that the material was beyond her, or coming through her.

(Concerning Jane’s writing, and her use as a basis of it of the Seth material, and what she has learned through personal experience as a foundation.)

We will continue with this material, the main material of the session, at our next session. [...]

They will be fully developed best, easiest, in dealing with this material and through his poetry. [...] He will work out the best way of doing this, for it will be a natural development, an alchemy, resulting from the nature of his own writing talents, which are considerable, his own intuitions, and the material. [...]

[...] Instead my companion was assigned this job: Each day his task was to climb back out the window with perhaps three looseleaf volumes of the Seth material tucked under one arm. [...]

(In relation to Seth’s material on the fund, I told Jane, it seems that creativity obviously has many more facets to it than we ordinarily think—if we need or want money, for example, with it just serving as a means to an end—our doing our work—it will be provided if we’re not closed to the idea. [...]

[...] She was very reserved about Seth possibly delivering a message for them. [...] I thought Seth could comment today, but I expected no detailed response there either at this time. [...]

[...] When I got home from 330 last night I found in the mail a letter from Maude Cardwell of Reality Change, the Seth newsletter she publishes in Austin, Texas. [...]

(Earlier this evening I reminded Jane of the conversation about cells, versus their components, that we’d had because of Seth’s material at 9:38 in Session 705. Some of tonight’s book work refers to the questions growing out of our talk I think, as does Seth’s brief clarification near the end of the session.)

I also suggest a rereading of the material on dreams and probable realities in chapters 14 and 15 of The Seth Material.

(The 706th session was held as scheduled last Wednesday night, and our guest, Tam Mossman, did witness it — but since Seth didn’t come through with any dictation for “Unknown” Reality during the session, it’s hereby deleted.

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

The material, the Seth material, will now serve as a cohesive binder in Ruburt’s classes. [...] For our material will indeed spread. [...]

[...] And while the discussions will begin with material giving specifics in your terms, this will be supplemented by other material in terms of electromagnetic realities, and also moment points.

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

I will give you theoretical material, and I hope that we shall implement it with our own demonstrations. [...]

(Being individualists, then, as I wrote in the Introductory Notes for Volume 1, we don’t concentrate upon whatever parallels exist between Seth’s concepts on the one hand and those of Eastern religious, philosophical, and mystical doctrines on the other; while we know of such similarities, we’re just as aware of how different from them Seth’s viewpoint can be, too. I added that even though we have no interest in putting down other approaches to inner reality, still we’re firm believers in the “inviolate nature of the individual consciousness, before, during, and after physical existence, in ordinary terms.”¹ So, here, we leave it up to the reader to make the intuitive and overt connections between Seth’s philosophy and the material Jane wrote today. [...]

[...] Jane’s quick and impassioned response through her own writing, as presented below, reflects feelings deeply rooted within her mystical nature, and also illuminates important aspects of the body and direction of the Seth material as a whole. [...]

2. From any of Seth’s books — let alone Jane’s — I could cite a number of comments that question much of the thinking behind different Eastern systems of religious thought. Seth, for example, in the 642nd session in Chapter 11 of Personal Reality: “You will not attain spirituality or even a happy life by denying the wisdom and experience of the flesh. [...]

1. In Volume 1 of “Unknown” Reality, see the material on Jane, mysticism, and religion in the Introductory Notes, the 679th session, and Appendix 1 for that session. [...]

[...] She was introduced to the Seth material by John Bradley, who has witnessed several sessions and read much of the material himself. Lorraine took her own shorthand notes of the material. [...]

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

[...] I doubt if this data would be entered on the record had not Seth mentioned it without prompting. [...]

(A companion prediction to this one, made by Seth at the same time and concerning the outbreak of a narcotics investigation in the Elmira area, within three months, developed as predicted.)

One letter from someone who wrote saying that The Seth Material contributed to a nervous breakdown is a case in point.

[...] Before the material was public this bothered him, but not to that degree. It worried him when people seem to turn to the material in the same way that they might turn to a church, merely substituting one set of ideas for another, while never experiencing the concepts themselves.

[...] The three Christs material particularly affects him that way, for to deny the conventional idea of Christ is to antagonize not merely Catholicism but basic Christian belief. The same material presented fictionally would not bother him at all. [...]

[...] The delivery of the material per se in our sessions, now, does not basically bother him. [...]

(We’ve held only three private, or deleted, sessions since Seth came through with the last regular one [the 885th] almost six weeks ago. I just wish I could present those sessions here, for in them Seth gave us much valuable information—not only about ourselves [including Jane’s somewhat impaired physical condition, her “stiffness”], but about the myriad interchanges occurring constantly between our inner and outer realities, or Frameworks 1 and 2, as he calls them. Some of that framework material is personal, but much more of it is general.

3. Jane gave Seth’s partial list of the inner senses in Chapter Nineteen of The Seth Material, which was published back in 1970.

[...] After giving some material for Jane, Seth ended the session at 10:32 P.M. “I had no idea he was going to do it that way,” Jane said. [...]

1. Since according to Seth something like a basic religious awareness has always been with mankind, Seth here indicates a few historical and mythological signposts of that intuitive understanding.

(2. There are clear connections between the “massive” portions of Jane’s latest psychic adventure and her first encounters with Seth Two in April, 1968; she goes into those experiences in some detail in Chapter Seventeen of The Seth Material. There is more on Seth Two in Chapter Twenty-two of Seth Speaks. In Chapter One of The Seth Material, she describes her first “trip” through an altered state of consciousness — and how it resulted in the production of her manuscript, The Physical Universe as Idea Construction. [...]

[...] I came across his essay, The Poet, in which he talked about the ‘speakers’ as being those who use their inner abilities to ‘speak the inner secrets of nature.’ The essay impressed me strongly, seeming to echo elements in my own writing and psychic characteristics; and of course I thought of Seth’s ‘Speakers’ as he described them in Chapter Twenty of Seth Speaks. [According to Seth, Emerson was a Speaker too!] Then Bob Monroe and his wife arrived, and we had a busy evening. Seth came through, and so forth.

(1. Seth deals with cellular memory to some extent in the 638th session in Chapter Ten; also see the 632nd and 637th sessions. Among other material covering altered states of consciousness on Jane’s part, refer to her Introduction, as well as the notes for the 639th session in Chapter Ten, and the 645th session in Chapter Eleven. [...]

(Seth came through Sunday night, April 1, in a long recorded discussion with the Monroes. [...]

[...] For my part, although I believe Seth’s contention that there are basically no accidents, I was still torn between understanding of that premise, and outrage that a young drunk could wreak such havoc on a seemingly innocent family of seven people. [...] I thought it a classic example that could be explained in Seth’s terms, though—the type of new information that at least could try to make sense out of such seemingly random happenings that we see as so tragic. In that way, then, my discussion of the event touched upon pretty basic premises of the Seth material.

[...] Jane’s delivery had been fast and sure throughout, the material unexpected but excellent. It would be most interesting, I told Jane, if eventually we could manage to check out some of Seth’s material on the surviving members of the family discussed this evening—after the wounds had healed, and provided any of them would be willing to talk about what had happened. [...]

(Also during break, I’d told her I’d found myself stewing rather often about the reception of Seth’s material by the world at large, and science in particular. [...]

(Today Jane heard from Tam that Prentice-Hall had signed a contract with a Dutch publisher for a translation of Seth Speaks into that language. [...] Tam told Jane that at our request he’d checked with John Nelson, who in turn had checked the contract with the Swiss publisher, to the effect that the German-language translation of Seth Speaks is definitely not to be cut, as that particular publisher had wanted to do a couple of years ago. So the two foreign-language editions of that book are certainly good news —the kind that Seth wants Jane to list daily, as he suggested she do. [...]

Soon, you see, you will all be able to read the Seth material. [...] You set up barriers and gates and limitations, and the material demands your high intellectual focus. [...]

[...] Leading you, I hope, sweetly and gently up the path that I want you to follow, and broadening your ideas so that you will be able to read the regular Seth material and follow it. [...]

(Class discussed whether Seth had been here before.)

(There was discussion with Maureen as to Seth’s reality.)

[...] “Like the New York Times ad test with Seth you two did and wrote up in The Seth Material. [...]

[...] Seth came through before I thought to remind Gramacy that he could record Seth, if Seth came through. But somehow in my mind at least, not recording that session added to it’s magical quality … the spontaneous psychological or psychic transformation came and went … We were sitting at the living-room table with the lamplight clear on my face; Gramacy could follow Seth’s psychological passage; see my features change, taking on ever so subtly those other contours. And Seth’s voice was jovial, booming, you didn’t have to strain to hear those words. [...] We hadn’t known that Gramacy was a scientist until he told us that night, and it was as a magician rather than as a scientist that Seth addressed him, telling him to trust his dramatic and imaginative flair.

“That’s why we don’t bother with effects that can be duplicated,” Seth suddenly said, “but with this performance and our books, which cannot be duplicated. For where does the material in the books come from? [...]

[...] And in a twinkling I’d changed into Seth. [...] Smiling, hearty, Seth talked about magic and cause and effect, but at the same time he demonstrated a magic that is beyond the clever manipulation of appearances. [...]

[...] Because he felt a responsibility to the work, and because of another publication—a hardcover book—he consented to The Seth Material. [...]

[...] Following The Seth Material, requests came that showed quite clearly he was regarded as a psychic. [...]

[...] In the beginning he did not want to publish the material, if you recall. Not because he did not like the material, but because then, at least, he understood that for him (underlined) assembling it during his creative hours was not fulfilling his kind of creative need.

[...] I mentioned three questions I hoped Seth would cover at least in part: Jane’s projected call to Tam at Prentice-Hall tomorrow morning, re substituting Seth’s new book for Adventures; Jane’s planned letter to Eleanor Friede about Rich Bed; and whether Jane should continue with ESP class.

After some hesitation following my question about having a session this evening, Jane decided she wanted to contribute introductory material for Dreams. This was to be a new experience for us: Because of the arthritis she was having trouble even holding a pen, so she intended to dictate her material as though she were writing it herself in longhand. [...] This wasn’t to be Seth speaking. For Jane’s own work, however, I note times, occasional pauses, and any other information in italics, just as I do for Seth’s dictation.

Jane hadn’t dictated this material while in a trance or a dissociated state, as she does when producing her Seth material. [...]

[...] I’ve certainly found her particular combination of attributes to be unique, and I don’t think she’d be able to express the Seth material as she does without them. [...]

This is a good place to explain that while Jane was in the hospital neither of us ever made any attempt to “convert” the people there—doctors, nurses, technicians, say—to a belief in the Seth material. [...]

(I meant to note: Some of today’s Seth material reminds me of Jane’s “sinful-self” material. [...]

[...] She said that last night she’d had a brief blue period, in which she’d wondered if she’d ever walk out on the street again, but got herself out of it by saying “cancel” to herself, and remembering Seth’s material.

(She also thought of a chapter in Seth’s new book, one that was titled “Food and You” — then found herself stewing about saying something wrong in the book and leading people astray — more signs of old habits. “But then,” she said, “I told myself to trust myself and Seth, and I said to hell with it.”

(In yesterday’s session, Seth said that “new developments concerning the insurance situation are occurring, to your benefit.” [...]

(This afternoon Jane received a royalty check from Prentice-Hall for $819.00, covering sales to June 30 of The Seth Material, hard and soft cover, and the first copies of Seth Speaks. [...]

[...] As we sat talking in Jane’s studio she eventually said that Seth was around. The notebook was handy, so I told her to go ahead if she wanted to let Seth come through. [...]

(“Thank you Seth.”)

[...] Released now in that direction, and convinced he is “right,” you will be astounded at the financial benefits, and material ones. [...]