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I am not denying that the drug experience can be excellent, however. There is a nitrogen balance that is disturbed in the drug experience. There is an ingredient in nuts also that will aggravate certain conditions if nuts are consumed within ten hours before the drug experience. If this happens, then the individual may be tossed back into a similar drug experience when nuts are consumed, even though no drug is given. There are other substances that also have this effect.

This is somewhat like drugging a child about to be born as a side effect of drugging the mother to make the birth easier, you see. Without drugs, the psychedelic experience will not occur unless circumstances are excellent from all aspects. There is little danger involved, as a rule. The chemical changes are automatically byproducts of the mobility of consciousness in such situations.

I mention such possibilities because such situations have not been dreamed of, and they should be taken into consideration. Such experiences without drugs could happen not at all. The alarmed personality would quickly return. In the case of drugs however the chemical framework might delay such a return until it was too late.

The chemical changes brought about by such outside agents as drugs to some degree rob the inner self of its usual directive abilities, for the changes occur before the inner self has gathered itself together. It is not as psychically organized as it is in such experiences without drugs.

(Very long pause at 3:14.) Doctors should be extremely cautious in the prescription of mind-altering drugs of any kind, and certainly not encourage their use for people in depressed states. Under drugs, choices become limited, and certainly people have committed suicide while under the influence of drugs — who may not have otherwise. I am not saying that drugs alone will cause suicide, but that the psychology of drugs already includes an attitude that promotes a Russian-roulette kind of mentality, that can only add to the problem.

People use drugs also in order to “let go.” It seems as if some drugs permit an individual to let down barriers of fears and repressions, and to emotionally transcend the problems of daily life. The fact is, however, that many such people use drugs instead as a kind of chemical blanket that has a tendency to smother rather than relieve.

[...] Such drugs should also literally be considered dangerous for use in old-peoples’ homes, for those considered senile, or even demented. With some variation these drugs are actually sometimes given to overactive children, where their effects can be very unpredictable, and result in moods that encourage suicidal tendencies, even in those so young.

Many people who use drugs socially are playing a kind of psychological Russian roulette. Their feelings can run something like this: “If I’m meant to live, these drugs won’t hurt me, and if I’m meant to die, what difference does it make what I take?” They are taking a certain kind of chance with their own lives, however — those who indulge in such activities — and the stakes can be high.

[...] I don’t think I have the nerve to give her prescription drugs on the sly, in the hospital, as Dr. Blount had suggested I do. [...] This opinion of both of us, though, didn’t necessarily mean that we’d rejected totally the idea of toying with those drugs....

(I explained to Jane how much I appreciated Seth’s insight about the drugs. [...] Now it was obvious that the involved, even torturous journey involving drugs was a way of arriving at that simple yet profound inner truth. [...]

[...] Suffice it to note that in the mail last night I found prescription drugs from Dr. Blount, to my complete amazement; I also found a letter from the Arthritis Foundation, in which Dr. MacDuffie expressed his complete opposition to Dr. Blount’s treatment for rheumatoid arthritis. [...]

[...] The answers, as you know, do not lie in drugs, although some, like your aspirin, may be helpful at times because of your belief in their worth. [...]

Now in the context of usual Western learning, and with the introduction of modern drugs, you are in somewhat of a quandary. The body knows how to handle “natural” drugs coming directly from the earth — whether ground or boiled, minced or steamed. A large variety of “manufactured” drugs offer an unfamiliarity to the body’s innate structure, which can lead to strong defense mechanisms. These are often aimed directly against the drug instead of the disease itself. Such a situation means that you must then use another drug to counteract the one just given.

(Pause at 9:58.) I am not suggesting that you not visit doctors or not take drugs of that nature, as long as you believe in the structure of medical discipline that the Western world has evolved. [...]

The same kind of event may happen in periods of poor health, or in over-drugged states. They are less easily handled, however, under drugged conditions, since the consciousness does not have the full agility to depend upon in periods of stress — unusual stress. [...]

[...] Drugs should not be prescribed under those conditions, unless the patient becomes highly restless and confused, and requests them. [...]

[...] The drug allows for regulated periods of highly intensified consciousness, operating at peak levels, with all of the mental faculties accelerated. [...] During the periods of unconsciousness the drugs injected into the brain give increased nourishment to those areas of the physical brain that are involved in such ejections of consciousness. [...]

[...] Certain drugs can protect it.

The drugs also help in changing the patterns when it is necessary. [...]

The drugs also insure that consciousness will not come back to the physical brain too quickly, to shock the system. [...]

His experiments involve drugs of much greater precision and stability than any that are known in your environment. The drugs enable him to isolate certain portions of himself, of his psyche, and to send the isolated portions on journeys of investigation. [...]

The drugs not only help him but they also have the effect of emphasizing his presence on his journeys, of concentrating his essence, isolating and focusing those portions of his psyche. [...]

[...] He has been working on the drug himself along with two others. [...]

The drug may have the effect of coloring his image, so do not be surprised at such an occurrence—a yellow or purplish tinge. [...]

[...] You will often become “allergic” to a drug simply because the body realizes that if the drug was accepted, all recourse to the solution of a particular problem would be cut off, or another more severe illness would result from the physical “cover-up” of the dilemma.

[...] Some of the drugs given to “mental” patients impede the natural flow of dream therapy to varying degrees.

[...] When imbalances of a physical nature are removed by the introduction of drugs, however, the body signals say that the inner dilemma must have been taken care of also — while this may not be the case at all (very positively).

[...] The problem manifested itself in a given way, and the drugs then block that normal expression of the psychic disorder. [...]

[...] Even discounting for the present the more tricky drugs, drugs with many side effects, quite severe sometimes, there was a drug less dangerous. [...]

[...] So taking a drug to prevent such a future development seemed the better side of wisdom to her—but not to me, not to Rob. [...]

[...] To introduce an entirely new line of drugs, with known side effects, for a condition that could be quite transitory—if I had it —went against everything that I believed. [...]

Now that I took one drug, however, or rather thyroid extract, I was to some degree connected to that structure, but because I was, this did not mean I had to fall for the rest of it. [...]

(John didn’t know about the name given for the drug, though the name Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, came into his mind as a probable disease that the drug might be used for. In any case the name given might be the future name of the drug, impossible to check at this time. Two grams would be a large dose, John said, of any drug.

[...] Such a drug could result, of course, and could be in the works but such things take a long time.

[...] Certain drugs can protect it. [...]

“Now these drugs are like time capsules, cutting down stimuli for certain intervals, and then injecting stimulants as destination points are reached. [...]

[...] The drug allows for regulated periods of highly intensified consciousness, operating at peak levels, with all the mental faculties accelerated. [...]

“During the unconscious periods the drugs injected into the physical brain give increased nourishment to those areas of the brain involved in these ejections of consciousness. [...]

[...] The drugs allowed him to permit himself a luxury that he could ill afford. [...] For them momentary release, such as the drugs can give, is highly beneficial. [...]

[...] He has witnessed many sessions, usually stopping in on his trips into Elmira as a drug salesman. [...]

[...] He still has drugs in his system, and they should be discontinued, all kinds, completely.

[...] The usual ego would have been much more serviceable however, for a longer period of time, had he not taken the drugs. [...]

The experience was so shattering that he pleaded for a counter drug, knowing as he did so that this was against all the rules. The drug was refused him in any case. [...]

He had been working with the drugs in a therapeutic framework for some time. [...]

He himself took drugs under controlled conditions several times, first small doses and then larger ones. [...]

[...] Great doses of such “artificial” drugs are not easily assimilated, and bring about biological confusion.

[...] She said it was “a broad spectrum drug” that could kill many germs. [...] Jane is to get the drug every eight hours. [...]

[...] Jane showed no reactions to the drug.

[...] Dr. S. also described a couple of drugs—penicillin being one—that was used to reduce the clotting ability of the blood—and also reduced the body’s natural defenses.

[...] Again, I thought the visit at least preserved the status quo for us, since I could see that more and more Jane was turning against the idea of preventative drug treatment for vasculitis, say, or anything else. [...]

[...] It wasn’t until we returned home Friday afternoon that I began to see how upset Jane had become by thoughts of arthritis, vasculitis, angiograms, clots, drugs, operations, etc. [...]

[...] The sharpness of the encounter made Ruburt come to the decision then and there that he would not use drugs to combat ahead of time conditions that may or may not appear at some future time. [...]

There are other drugs however, and if these are discovered and utilized, then these developments could occur within the field of psychology itself. The drugs release certain barriers that (pause) stand between the physical body and its other forms.

(The article concerns the drug supply available in plants, and the paucity of our knowledge about this vast field. [...]

(“For example an analysis of an ancient Mexican drug, sinicuichi, has shown it to contain five alkaloids that produce giddiness, an illusion that surrounding objects have become very small, and a feeling of remembering events before one’s birth.”

(Other drugs are described, including some from Africa that promote forgetfulness, feelings of smallness and largeness, and other effects. [...]

[...] Drugs are not a prerequisite however. In an experience without drugs, the ego loses its substantial quality momentarily. [...]

Ruburt has been reading about drugs that induce the so-called psychedelic experience.

[...] Your LSD and similar drugs do to some extent lift the imprinting process, though never completely.

It is precisely because the ego is excluded from the psychedelic experience with drugs that difficulties are encountered afterward. [...]

The well-meaning announcements pertaining to heroin, marijuana, and acid (LSD) can also be damaging, in that they structure in advance any experience that people who take drugs might have. On the one hand, you have a culture that publicly points out as common the often exaggerated dangers that can occur with drugs, and on the other holds out drugs as a method of therapy. [...]

[...] In this system, at least, the body is not insulted with a bewildering assortment of drugs for therapy. [...]

(10:53.) The same applies to the “public service announcements” dealing with tobacco and drugs alike. [...]

[...] You can minimize pain or discomfort through drugs, cutting down on the “cry” of any symptoms. The cry of symptoms, however, is meant to bring about a new condition, to trigger healing aspects, so drugs can often impede the healing process.

[...] The large complex dealing with the development of the new drugs and so forth forms its own organization, so that the concentration is always upon more drugs, and the concept of any natural health is lost in the process. [...]