“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

She quotes Seth on dreams in Chapter 14 of The Seth Material, and to some extent he discusses them directly in Seth Speaks and Personal Reality. However, we’ve accumulated quite a bit of unpublished Seth material on dreams, and I’ll start looking for chances to insert some of those data in the rest of “Unknown” Reality.

[...] She had dreamed the recording part of the experience.)

1. Seth’s material here about dream solutions reminded me of a few lines just about all that were saved — from a poem Jane wrote when she was 17 years old:

I have found dreams and followed them

[...] It is the I who is aware and alert within the dream state and who watches the dreaming self. [...]

[...] I will give you some material that I had in mind pertaining to the dreaming self and the levels of the personality.

This self is also a director of dream activities. [...]

It will first appear in the dream state.

(I also asked if Seth could comment on my dream of Mrs. Johnson that I’d had last November, 1978. [...] I’ve written my own longer notes explaining why I couldn’t find my account of the dream—I believe I simply forgot to write it down—but since I remembered it well I described the dream to Jane now. [...]

(I was surprised when Seth began this evening’s session with material on the dream—but also pleased. A copy of his material is attached to my own material on this dream.

(A note: I must write that not only was I surprised that Seth opened the session with an analysis of the dream, but that I was even more surprised with the generous connotations he ascribed to it: I may love my fellow man, but often times feel that that feeling is compromised by events in our world, even though I fully acknowledge my own part in helping create that world in the most intimate detail. [...] On that basis his material may very well express the content of that dream; from that wider viewpoint, I would feel the compassion he describes more openly. [...]

[...] (Pause.) About your dream and drawing.

In a fashion man also is equipped with the ability to initiate actions on a nonphysical level that then become physical and continue to wind in and out of (pause) both realities, entwining dream events with historic ones, in such a fashion that the original nonphysical origins [are] often forgotten. [...] He often reacts to dream events as if they were physical, and to physical events as if they were dreams. [...]

Neither of us had counted the sessions we have for Dreams, but when I made a quick check the next day I was surprised to discover that Jane’s estimate is only two short of the 32 sessions Seth has called book dictation. I’m still busy typing the final manuscript for Mass Events, but we’ve already planned that I’ll be adding several “nonbook” sessions, and excerpts from others, to Dreams when finally I get to concentrate on the production work for it And my own opinion, I explained to Jane, is that Seth is considerably more than halfway through this book, even if we add more extra sessions to it.)

[...] Their main thrust is in what you can call the vaster dimension of dreams, the unknown territory of inner reality. [...]

(Seth stared at me, so I asked: “What do you think of my dreams of the last two nights?”)

You know you can have more than one dream at a time. You can also experience versions of dreams of probable selves, but there will always be some point of contact—that is, there will always be a reason why you pick up such a dream. All of the dreams people have form a mass dream framework. Dreams exist at other levels, and physically of course they affect the body state. In such ways, the world’s actions are worked out in mass dream communications that are at the same time public and private.

[...] I had two dreams, side by side. [...] I’m puzzling over how I could have had the dreams beside each other, though; it seems they should have been in sequence. I had no sense of one dream being inside the other one, as in what I call the conventional double dream.”)

(“Last Saturday morning I had what seemed to be two dreams that were identical and side by side, or at the same time. But they weren’t within the other, as in a double dream—”)

[...] Within another couple of sessions, however, he began to let “fragment” semantically yield to other terminology as he continued developing his material in ever-deepening discussions of personalities and entities, reincarnation, time, dreams, and other related subjects. I was surprised when he returned to the word here in Dreams. [...]

This knowledge automatically changes the dream state into another in which the critical faculties are aroused and operating. Dream actions are no longer taken for granted. [...] Anything that does not normally belong there may be an hallucination, part of the usual dreaming process. [...] If you rationalize any such elements or accept them uncritically, you may fall back into normal dreaming.

While we may “come awake” spontaneously within a dream, certain procedures do help, and these can induce projections from the dream state. [...] First you must realize that you are dreaming. [...]

[...] The primary dream experience is finally woven into a structure composed of these assumptions, and it is these you remember. [...] Dream objects are often symbols of realities that the ego could not otherwise perceive.

I fell asleep and dreamed that Rob had just come home and had begun to redecorate the room. Though I was surprised to see him, I accepted without question the fact that he was home early and did not realize I was dreaming at this point. [...]

The sense of fun and joy and spontaneity—all of these things are as important in the dreaming as in the waking state. [...] Therefore he carried this attitude into the dream state, and rebelled against the idea of working while he slept. [...] For some time therefore he curtailed his own dream activities, projections and other such adventures. [...]

[...] He was in a dream state, and in the dream I appeared to him in the form of a pyramid of lights. [...]

I often appear in his dreams as a form or symbol, for he accepts me more readily. I often appear in such a manner in your own dreams, but as various people. [...]

[...] The freedom of his dream activity will now return. [...]

[...] Those connections are worked out at all levels of reality, in the waking state through your communication devices and culture, and through the far more complicated arena of the culture of dreams. Your dreams are your own, yet they interact with others, and the dreams of others are background issues in your own dream encounters.

In a manner of speaking you have your dream newscasters, of course, only these are both more extensive and more personal than your television equivalents. Your dream newscasts come down to the question of what actions are taken by individuals (underlined)—and individual actions, again, are as influenced by the knowledge received in dreams as they are from exterior activity.

[...] So does her active dream-experience nightlife, still based upon, often, television programs. Jane had a “scary” dream episode last night, one that was quite unpleasant, she said, and involved her seeing herself in different time frames and three different programs or movies on TV at the same time. [...]

[...] Ruburt has been using television programs and such cultural data as a basis for some of his own dreams. [...]

Later you may not recall it, but you have a more direct connection with reality in the dream state, and the intensity of the dream experience is more completely perceived. [...] It is less camouflaged in the dream state. [...]

[...] The dream experience is rather independent of physical time, and its experience, or rather its intensity—my error—is felt more directly while you are in the dream situation.

There is a constant translation of inner reality into objects in the waking state, and a constant translation of ideas into pseudoobjects in the dreaming state. Within a certain portion of dream reality, ideas or thoughts can be translated into pseudoobjects, and transported. [...]

[...] The dream universe is obviously then strongly connected with your own, since pseudoimages are present. [...] Therefore within the dream state you are in the outward areas of your physically-oriented universe, you see.

(It will be remembered that in the 87th session of September 14, 1964, Seth began an interpretation of Jane’s dream of September 7. The ramifications from this dream are still spreading. Seth again dealt with this dream in the 93rd session, of September 30. In it he said that although he was not sure, he thought Jane’s schoolgirl friend, Marie Tubbs, now living in Florida, may have been in childbirth at the time of Jane’s dream, with a possibility that the water bag had broken during birth. The unifying symbol of the dream had been a tub, and water.

The woman told the events of the trip to friends, then dreamed that night of the friends, and in this dream the woman retold these events. It was from this dream that Ruburt picked up the information connecting her friend with water.

(As usual in such interesting cases, I could have asked many questions, but settled by seeking to learn whether dreams could be simultaneous; offhand I did not recall ever reading whether such a possibility had been dealt with by investigation. Let alone whether one dreamer could telepathically pick up the other dreamer’s dream!)

[...] And at the time of Jane’s dream, Marie said, hurricane Cleo had been descending upon them at Boynton Beach, and “we had plenty of water around then during the storm. [...]

[...] Through instructions given by Seth I’ve learned to come fully awake while dreaming, as mentioned earlier. In this state you recognize your dreams as dreams and can manipulate them more or less at will. [...] You must learn, through experience, to maintain the proper level of consciousness, and there is always the possibility of falling back to the usual dream state.

“There is a condition of consciousness that is more awake than any you have ever known—a condition in which you are aware of your own waking and dreaming selves simultaneously. [...]

[...] But you feel as if you have lived your life in a dream and are now awake. [...]

[...] Overall, that dream, and today’s, both represented deep feelings that challenges could be met successfully, even in an adventurous fashion—that he was safe. [...] That includes both dreams. [...]

(“During Monday’s session I was going to ask about that dream he had—on Monday afternoon, I think. [...]

(See the copy of Jane’s dreams attached. [...]

[...] Dreams are particularly interesting from this viewpoint, as the original dream experience is a direct electrical experience, decoded electrically, subjectively then translated for the various areas of the inner self. [...]

[...] This is why your dream locations take up no physical space, either within your skull or in your physical universe; and yet I have said that these dream locations did exist. [...]

Dreams are felt directly through electrical patterns, and then decoded. [...] I have not spoken much concerning the dream universe, since first it was necessary that you understand the electrical actuality of emotions and thoughts. [...]

Many psychological intangibles, including dreams, have such an electric reality, and do exist as electric actions. [...]

[...] You may have a series of dreams, all in one way or another stating the message. Whether or not you remember the dreams, or can interpret them, they will be, in a dream-drama series, painting the reality of the world in a new fashion, giving the significant clues, and to some extent altering habitual psychic organization.

The kind of dream Ruburt interpreted for you, about the Cézanne exhibition, is an example of an excellent message dream, important enough to come to consciousness because you were ready. Then, you consciously assimilate the information, and add the strength and power of the conscious mind, and conscious intent, to the power of the dream’s message.

(The dream Seth refers to happened on Wednesday morning, November 9, 1977, and Jane did an excellent job of interpreting it. The dream actually reviews the whole of Jane’s and my life together, our motives and actions, fears and beliefs, etc.)

[...] Because you are natural, however, your existence is couched in Framework 2, and to some extent you are even saved at times from your own beliefs because additional insights or solutions are directly inserted into your mind in the dream state, or in other moments of the day.

[...] Often, however, the suggestion involved in a dream brings about the event, so it seems when the dream becomes real that you have looked into a future that already existed. [...]

[...] Whether or not you remember your dreams, for example, a certain portion of you, under hypnosis, could remember every dream that you ever had in your life. [...]

[...] Now, I tell you to remember your dreams. In your context I will tell you again not only to remember your dreams, but to learn to come awake in the middle of them and realize that you can manipulate within them. [...]

[...] In one context what you call physical reality is a dream, but in a larger context it is a dream that you have created. [...]

[...] Healing dream. [...]

[...] Various confusing dreams.

JANE’S DREAM

[...] Beside this, however, their energy was utilized in a different fashion than yours is: They alternated between the waking and dream states, and while asleep they did not age as quickly. [...] Although this was true, their dreaming mental processes did not slow down. There was a much greater communication in the dream state, so that some lessons were taught during dreams, while others were taught in the waking condition. [...]

Tonight, Seth suggested that “portions of this session can be appended to the book,” meaning Dreams, but I found it easier to offer most of his generalized material verbatim while eliminating his information on one of my dreams.)

After discussing another dream of mine, Seth said good night at 10:11 P.M. “I felt so relaxed before the session I was like a dishrag,” Jane said with a laugh. I told her the session was excellent, and that I’ll be adding relevant parts of it to my dream notebook.)

3. This account of the dream I had this afternoon (February 20, 1980) is condensed from my dream notebook:

(It might be added here that last September 2, Jane’s dream notebook reveals, Jane had a dream involving Helen McIlwain’s brother. [...] The dream involving the brother was a rather ordinary one, Jane believes, and at least on the surface does not involve clairvoyance. [...]

(Jane has been quite concerned because of her dream of November 8, which she feels to be clairvoyant, and her recent psychological time experiences, which she feels are related to the dream. [...]

Last night’s dream was a communication from the Helen who was the friend of Ruburt’s mother. [...] And the import of the dream was clear to him merely in the perception of that simple data, the black envelope, with the return name in the left hand corner, and though he does not recall it, his name on the envelope as the person to whom the communication was sent.

Even in his dream he was stunned, afraid that the death was his own. [...] In his dream, therefore, which he knew he would remember because of his training, he then added shielding fabrications, interwoven with the valid information.

In the dream state and in certain other levels of reality, ideas and their symbols are immediately experienced. [...] The psyche is presented with its own concepts, which are instantly reflected in dream situations and other events that will be explained shortly. If you dream of or yearn for a new house in physical life, for instance, it may take some time before that ideal is realized, even though such a strong intent will most certainly bring about its physical fulfillment. The same desire in the dreaming state, however, may lead to the instant creation of such a house as far as your dream experience is concerned. [...]

[...] It wasn’t speaking through anyone — that is, it wasn’t coming from inside my head or through me as it always has so far, even in the dream state. [...] At first I thought he was angry, but then I realized I was interpreting the power of the voice that way. This wasn’t part of a dream, but I awakened almost at once as I tried to make out the words. [...]

(10:16.) Now: In almost all instances, demons in dreams represent the dreamer’s belief in evil, instantly materialized. [...] It is very important for you to realize that even in dreams you form your own reality. [...]

(From Jane’s dream journal, then, for Sunday, October 6, 1974:

Dreams involve a certain kind of inner motion, and in a manner of speaking, at least, exterior motions consist of dream activities also, and in a dream reality that everyone more or less agrees is a separate, objective world. [...]

(I had no calls or other interruptions this morning as I worked on Dreams. [...] Jane told me that after she got back to her room from hydro she had an excellent little experience, something like a waking dream, perhaps: She took some already cooked T-bone steak out of a refrigerator, and started eating it as she walked across a street. [...]

He functions in a nightly dream world in the same fashion, and only when or if you begin to distrust dreams do you hesitate or falter, or feel afraid to move, and also feel as if you are caught in a nightmare. [...]

Ruburt’s brief dream experience, in which he crossed the street and began eating lustily a piece of steak, unconsciously activated all the portions of the body that would be necessary for such activity, though on a miniature scale. [...]