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Some environmental influences of a real but not profound nature can be cleared up by the simple process of the housecleaning ritual. Disinfectants and the symbolic chase after germs—these simply serve as a symbolic but helpful aid in ridding the atmosphere of the idea of illness.

[...] He became determined not to pamper himself, but he never did pamper himself to any great extent. He would not buy clothes that you could afford, but wore others given to him by others, as if he did not feel he deserved his own.

He is willing to compromise by taking various jobs, but here there are other influences also. [...] He had his own businesses, but he barely scraped by with them you see.

The compulsive behavior gave him a safe circle in which to operate, but it was a small circle. It was meant to keep harmful influences out, but it was also meant to keep harmful influences in.

But what gives life to the egg or the seed now, keeps it going, provides that energy? Imagining some great big-bang theory (to explain the creation of the universe) gives you an immense explosion of energy, that somehow turns into life but must wear out somewhere along the line — and if that were the case, life would be getting weaker all the time, but it is not. [...]

[...] But each time I start visualizing the results, I end up with two notions: First, that as I work with those intermediate forms I’ll become involved with myth and fantasy, rather than ‘fact.’ Just how did reptiles change into birds? [...] Second, the idea of my drawings makes me think that others must have done it already, not once but many times. [...]

(Pause at 10:07.) I understand that it appears that species have vanished, but again you must remember probabilities, and that those species simply “developed” along the patterns of probable earths. You are not just dealing with a one-line development of matter, but of an unimaginable creativity, in which all versions of your physical world exist, each one quite convinced of its physical nature. [...]

[...] But what good were the developing stages of a wing, I wondered, and how many uncounted generations of reptiles-turning-into-birds had to carry those appendages, before a fully-formed bird was finally hatched that could fly? [...]

This isolation would be unfortunate enough without the application of drugs meant to help, but often given without understanding. Loved ones are permitted to visit the sick on but certain occasions, so those who wish them well in the strongest terms, who are closest to them and who love them, are efficiently prevented from exerting any natural constructive behavior.

[...] I am not saying here that many doctors and nurses do not try their best to promote healing, and certainly healings occur — but they do so despite the system and not because of it. [...] But as there are natural healing processes within animals, so there are in your race.

Small hospitals on spacious grounds, with freedom for all but the bedridden to use their bodies, would far surpass what you have. But in your system as it is set up, such an environment is impossible except for the most wealthy.

(But there was only the one ring. [...]

You had negative ideas but youth was strong enough to hold you up. [...] But no one but yourself can make you recreate the failure that you have been recreating. [...] There is nothing stopping you but your own imagination. [...]

[...] I will not give you what you (Brad) want, but to show Laurie what a jolly fellow I am, I will make a compromise. [...] However, it is complicated in answering but not important, and this was more important. [...]

Now I will be there to give you a poke in the ribs, but also to give you a sense of confidence, and I promise it. But you must make the first step. [...]

And if I solved them for you, then you would go about your way, but you would have no faith in your own abilities and you would have learned nothing. [...]

[...] You need not take mine but listen to it, and there are no accidents. [...] For logically there cannot be simply one small accident, but a universe in which accidents are not the exception but the rule. [...]

[...] Now, in some native cultures this is not true, but you are learning to encourage spontaneity, and yet within certain areas there must be a concentration of abilities in the physical line and in this extent you are a teacher and you are learning as you teach them. [...] When you are a parent you can feel the child’s anger but you do not know what to do. [...] You are angry because you do not understand, as yet, the nature of reality and you have no answers but you can learn the proper questions. [...]

I was not particularly thinking of your work problems, but these may be used also. But you will be able to translate knowledge in technical terms and perhaps come up with some breakthroughs that scientists can understand. [...]

[...] And if you could but realize it you could talk to him but you magnify your differences. [...]

[...] We do believe Seth’s assessment, to the effect that her body is righting itself in numerous areas after years of disuse, of being held down, but at the same time it’s very difficult not to have qualms and doubts about what’s happening at the same time. At Christmastime I discussed with Jane the idea of seeking medical help, and asked her to tell me what she thought of this idea later, but she has yet to bring up the subject. I knew she’s not in favor of it, but as I said at the time, this seemed to mean that she was indulging the idea of spending the balance of her life sitting down —quite immobile for all practical purposes. I’d told her at the time that I had no great hope that medicine could help much, but still I wondered often enough if the medical profession might be able to offer some sort of help. [...]

I will have far more to say, but that is enough for discussion one. I know that it is difficult to understand, but the challenge is one of growth, one that exists in a fashion because you have moved into an ever-expanding framework —but in an uneven course. [...]

[...] This pattern was most pronounced while Seth was producing Mass Events, but without checking at the moment we remember similar if shorter layoffs while the previous books were being produced. This has always bothered me to some extent, but I usually told myself that was Jane’s way of working, and to forget it. [...]

[...] I said that she would have probably used her psychic gifts in some fashion in her writing, but that the Seth books might very well have not come into existence except for my own interest—hence my mental insight this morning that Jane did the Seth books to please me. I know things aren’t that simple, but I do feel that the fact of public exposure represented by the Seth books has always bothered Jane. [...]

(9:21.) The term “value fulfillment” is very difficult to explain, but it is very important. Obviously it deals with the development of values — not moral values, however, but values for which you really have no adequate words. [...] The quality of that life is not simply to be handed down or experienced, for example, but is to be creatively added to, multiplied, in a way that has nothing to do with quantity.

(10:17 P.M. “Now that’s weird,” Jane said as soon as Seth withdrew, “It’s only a quarter after ten, but I feel that what we got is way beyond in proportion to the time involved. Before the session I knew he was going into schizophrenia and so forth, but he went past those inklings….” [...]

[...] All of the mail doesn’t need answering, of course, but the other day we estimated that with very little help from me Jane now replies to around 2,000 letters a year. [...]

Dictation: When I speak of natural law, I am not referring to the scientists’ laws of nature, such as the law of gravity, for example — which is not a law at all, but a manifestation appearing from the viewpoint of a certain level of consciousness as a result of perceptive apparatus. [...]

(11:02.) Many of the lessons “that come with age” will then be available to the young, but the old will not lose the spiritual elasticity of their youth. [...] But for some time, future incarnations will still be hidden for practical reasons.

[...] There were many factors behind the long layoff: Jane’s sheer need for rest; problems and questions of our own that we had wanted to deal with, but had put off for a long time; some work with others; a vacation; and the acquisition of several more rooms across the hall from our original apartment. [...]

[...] “But I don’t care what he does,” she laughed, “as long as we have a session.” [...]

[...] It is quite true to say that their reality consists not only of the core of their own identity, but also is reinforced by those projected thoughts and feelings of the earthly audience for whom the drama is enacted.

It did originate in a past life, as mentioned, but it did not have to reassert itself, now. [...] Now, it predated the hearing difficulty in its strongest form, but the “habits” were always with you. [...] You could have been quite as comfortable without the new shoe, but the symbol was a good one, and you used it and took advantage of it.

[...] But without changing your attitude, it will not help to any degree that will compensate you. But the decision, you see...

[...] But if you do not care what they think, then, again, you will not listen. [...] I do not mean to watch yourself so closely that you cannot think, but observe your own reactions and your thoughts. [...]

[...] You do not overeat simply any food, but you surround eating itself with taboos, so that it must be “pure food,” “good food,” to your way of thinking. [...] To you this does not necessarily or alone mean they are good for the body or bad for the body, but in themselves you give them moral characteristics as you would people. [...]

[...] It is not, say, a simple declaration, but involves realizations and insights of vital import that are given purposefully in such a way that they will gradually be sifted into consciousness because consciousness, the consciousness, would not be able to interpret the meanings in usual terms. This is not a good analogy particularly, but it is as if you received an important communication, say, three paragraphs of great import, with all the individual letters appearing, but not in their proper sequences, and gradually the letters would float together to form the proper words, and then the words would float together to form the proper sentences, and so forth.

It might take you years, possibly, to thoroughly discuss all of the ramifications of that insight, but the original creation comes from Framework 2 into your time. [...] But the conventional version says, really, that those are surface moments; that you, say, run from one to the next, as if time were a moving sidewalk with the past moment vanishing forever. [...]

[...] I’d had somewhat the same feelings today, having managed to “work” at painting for but a couple of hours this morning. [...]

[...] I planned to attach it to this evening’s session, but did not since this is private material. [...]

A psychic gestalt is dependent upon matter, not for its identity but merely for its survival in the physical plane. [...] They may join other gestalts but they will never be less than they once were. [...] Any apparent breaking down is never an actual fact, as the personality could be thought of as a breaking down of the entity; but this is not so. [...]

I have explained somewhat earlier how the gestalt ego consciousness was formed, and to some degree explained its psychic composition, but there is much more to be said here. [...] Your senses are rather more equipped to notice difference and divergence than sameness; but nevertheless the cooperation of all conscious entities provides physical objects with whatever appearance of permanence they have.

[...] But the growth, so-called, is not of itself a property of matter, in that the same matter does not grow, but energy completely forms the pattern ever anew, as far as the particular strength of the energy itself can carry it, and knowing the limitations and capacities of the pattern which it has formed. [...]

[...] I suggest, but merely suggest, that Ruburt hold even; again, patience is not one of his characteristics. [...]

The Mafia dream (of March 16) based on the gangsters’ series, for example, served to bring into conscious awareness not just the information, but Ruburt’s feelings about the dominant male role in your present culture. [...] They should not be shunted aside, or treated as stepchildren, but compassionately understood. [...] There is no need saying, “What a ridiculous way to feel” —not an attempt to disinherit the feelings, but to accept them as one’s own, and compassionately explain the mitigating circumstances and new knowledge that alter the initial circumstances that stimulated the feelings to begin with. [...]

(No session was held Monday night because Jane was so relaxed again—that is, I’d thought that was the reason, but more about that later. [...] “But I don’t know how it’ll work out.” [...]

(Actually, I learned as we talked, Jane had called me for a session Monday evening, but I hadn’t heard her. [...] But she said when I didn’t answer she decided to let the session go. [...]

Natural therapeutics always operate, of course, but in your society at least there is considerable pressure put on the other side, for it is the natural person you are taught not to trust. (Pause.) The switch of course, again, can never become total, but science—and medical science in particular—almost managed to divorce man from his natural feeling of trust in his own capacities, so that it seems for example that medical science per se knows more about any given individual’s body than the individual does himself. [...]

The exaggerated fears carried threats not simply of scorn, but as you so clearly put it the other evening “Those people would burn us at the stake if they had the chance.” [...] But in the face of that kind of exaggerated threat they were considered very strict, but reasonable enough under the conditions. [...]

The public man, the man of letters, et cetera in other centuries, and the public man say of Rome, or of the Middle Ages, or of the 19th Century, involved personal interactions with the public, but in very limited, controlled situations. [...] There is much more that could be said, but I simply here want to mention that such issues demand far more of a gifted personality.

[...] But Jane said the silence bothered her—the kind of remark I’ve always heard her make. [...]

I want to begin, however, by making some rather neutral but important points. [...]

[...] A simple statement of fact, regardless of the reasons: Ruburt has a great but not neurotic need of expressions of love. [...]

The parents who say “Brush your teeth because it is good for you, and I want you to be healthy,” may mean “I love you,” but the child would usually prefer a hug and a kiss. [...]

Ruburt is not a child, but you often do think that your concern automatically expresses your love, and take it for granted that to Ruburt that is clear. [...]

[...] You make an effort to tell him he looks well on occasion, but stroking his body tells him you love it—frowning at him does not.

[...] This is not because you want to understand the experience, but because you refuse to accept it as basically nonphysical. [...] But in the very deep reaches of sleep experience — those, incidentally, not yet touched upon by scientists in so-called dream laboratories — you are in communication with other portions of your own identity, and with the other realities in which they exist.

Not only are you part of other independent selves, each one focused in its own reality, but there is a sympathetic relationship that exists. [...]

[...] Such things as telepathy and clairvoyance can give you hints of other kinds of perception, but you are also involved in quite definite experiences both while you are normally waking and while you are asleep.

[...] The body, in other words, is simply one manifestation of what you are in one reality, but in these other realities you have other forms.

[...] You would perceive it simply as a visual object, but these people were great synthesizers. A line was not simply a visual line, but according to an almost infinite variety of distinctions and divisions, it would also represent certain sounds that would be automatically translated.

[...] But the keys to interpretation have been completely lost, so all you could see would be a drawing devoid of the multisensual elements that gave it such great variety. It exists, but you could not bring it alive.

[...] We sat for it as usual at about 9:00, but Jane didn’t “feel Seth around” right away. [...]

(9:21.) These outposts were situated in many scattered areas, but there were a fairly large number of them in what is now Spain and the Pyrenees. [...]

(Jane tried to read the session from the day before, but didn’t do well. She was having spasms also, but managed to finish the session finally. [...]

[...] Jane tried to reread the session for 12/4, but couldn’t do much with it. [...] Her right eye is fine, and sees colors well, she said, but for some reason the two eyes together couldn’t read well. [...]

(Jane held no session yesterday, December 5, but I’d like to note a couple of items. [...]

[...] But this is quite an advancement for my wife. [...]

[...] “I’ve done nothing but doze off since I called you.... [...] Like now I’m afraid to pick up a cigarette—I think I’ve got one in my hand but I don’t at all.... But I do have the feeling that Seth will give us considerable help once we get going. [...]

[...] In some fashions it uses more energies at times than at others, and slowly begins to demand more energy, so there will be periods of unevenness—but he is (underlined) being provided for. [...] Remembering a few small but potent suggestions will of course be of greatest benefit—particularly to offset any negative hospital suggestions, which do of course exist. [...]

[...] She added that she often thought of trying something that way, but that she hesitated to ask me to take the time to sit around in case nothing happened, since she knew I was trying to work as much as I could on the intro for Seth’s Dreams. [...]

[...] This morning Dr. K’s nurse called and gave us the results of the tests—all but the thyroid, that is, which is to run this coming Wednesday. [...]

[...] Jane began speaking now while leaning back in her rocker, eyes closed, her voice again high, very clear but distant, very distinct but rather emotionless, ending sentences often again on the upbeat. Pauses occasionally, but pace varied considerably, from quite fast to very slow. [...]

[...] I suggested that the session be considered ended, but she demurred. [...] Once again the voice was high and formal, but I thought not so distinct, not so distant. [...]

[...] She also experienced the pyramid effect at this time but didn’t tell us until break.

[...] We change our face and form but we are always the one. [...]

[...] You might not like it at times, but you could depend on it. You could change your ideas toward it if you chose, but this would in no way change what reality was. [...]

[...] “But you’re interested in dreams, certainly after those two particular ones you had. [...] But what about ordinary people? [...]

“I’m glad somebody thinks so,” I said to Rob, but now that things were safely back with the board, my curiosity was at me again. [...] Rob put his hands on the pointer and asked a question, but it barely moved.

[...] Perhaps these circumstances made me more aware than usual of our human vulnerability, but certainly many people have had difficult years with no resulting emergence of psychic phenomena. [...]