“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now as a compromise, but not as a composite. I will leave you, but I will give you more information on that topic the next time we meet. And I will keep my eye on you (DMC), but I will not bear tales.

[...] And then you can travel through these other doors, but you must be able to stand on your two feet in this universe.... [...] But you must have something secure to hang onto. [...]

[...] But that is of little notice. [...] But you will have freedoms within it that you do not have now.... [...]

[...] Now I did not intend a question and answer service this evening, but I seem to be involved in one. [...] But they will be your answers and not my answers.

Now as a compromise, but not as a composite. I will leave you, but I will give you more information on that topic the next time we meet. And I will keep my eye on you (Daniel), but I will not bear tales. [...]

[...] And then you can travel through these other doors, but you must be able to stand on your two feet in this universe—and then you will go consciously where your body cannot follow and you will find your answers. But you must have something secure to hang on to. [...]

[...] But that is of little notice. [...] But you will have freedoms within it that you do not have now—not unless at 8 o’clock in the morning you leap from the rooftops and fly through the windows to your death. [...]

Now I did not intend a question-and-answer service this evening, but I seem to be involved in one. [...] But they will be your answers and not my answers. [...]

[...] But the thing pressed down and was about to bite me again. [...] I knew it wasn’t my physical head, but I hoped that my shout would either frighten the creature away or attract some kind of help.

[...] But it was gone. [...] I thought of waking Rob to tell him, but decided not to interrupt his sleep.

“The energy behind his ‘black thing’ was the energy of hidden fears, but such a thing could be formed by anyone, since there are fears in any man. [...] It could do nothing but attack to protect whatever reality it had, for it knew Ruburt created it only to slay it, if possible.

Seth went on to say: “The evil that Ruburt imagined he was projecting outward does not exist, but because he believed it did, he formed the materialization from his fears. [...] In larger terms, there is no evil, only your own lack of perception, but I know this is difficult for you to accept.

[...] And so your legends are not only made of your past but they are also weaved from your future, in your terms, and all of these are interwoven even with your flesh. So that if all physical knowledge were taken from you, all the knowledge that you have learned since birth in this life, and that is impossible, but if it were possible still within you would always be the inner knowledge not only of your own private past and future, but of the private past and future of your kind and of your species. [...]

[...] This is exactly what you are doing every day of your life in your normal hours of activity but you do not recognize the symbols. [...] Now, there are symbols that are personal but there are also symbols that are, in your terms, universal and you build with these. [...]

[...] Now, none of you clearly left your bodies, with one exception; but mentally you detached yourselves to various degrees. You are taking first steps well, but the subjective knowledge must come from within each of you. [...]

[...] But, in one manner of speaking, it cannot be told for you must have your own experience and recognize it. [...] You do not know the symbols for yourselves but you can discover what they are, and I will expect you all to do so. [...]

[...] Not theoretically, not merely in intuitive terms, but altogether at once regardless of the concepts that you attach to the experience. This is what I hope not to teach you, but to lead you to understand and experience for yourselves. [...] And that what you observe does not necessarily come from outside of you but from inside of you. [...]

[...] You create and form your own reality, but you create and form more realities than you consciously realize. [...] To some extent you can do this, not entirely, but intuitively you can make great strides. You may not be able to translate the experience clearly, but you may be able to translate it capably enough so that you realize, so that the immediate self realizes, that it is indeed a part of other experiences. [...]

[...] The answers, as you know therefore, are not only within yourself but pass through you automatically if you but realize it and know it. [...]

[...] Creation is playful and full of joy but do not in your own heart set up any kind of social barrier. [...] I understand your feeling and your sense of accomplishment but also remember in your heart that the most stereotyped unoriginal suburbanite, in your terms, has within him all the capabilities of which we speak so that you do not, in your own mind, set him down as a caste system for that is what has been done to you. [...]

Give us a moment… The consciousness that you have, as generally described in psychology, is in a strange fashion like the bright shiny skin of a fruit — but with no fruit inside; a consciousness with a shiny surface that responds to sun or rain or temperature, and to its surroundings; but for all of that a psychological fruit that has no pulp or pits, but contains at its heart a vacancy. [...] Fruit trees have roots, but you assign no ground of being to this consciousness.

[...] That was some 18 months ago, but actually to one degree or another I’ve been involved with “Unknown” Reality for four years now; I think that temporarily I’ve simply grown tired and overly concerned about the whole project, even while I still have a considerable way to go to finish certain notes and appendixes for Volume 2. Not that I haven’t worked on a number of other things at the same time, of course — but my labors on those two books represent the prolonged, intense focus I always search for in my creative life, and without which I feel incomplete. [...]

The consciousness of that myth can indeed have no origin, for the myth precludes anything but a physically-oriented and physically-mechanized consciousness. Not only could that consciousness have no existence before or after death, but obviously it could have no access to knowledge that was not physically acquired. [...]

(A week has passed, and I’m still surprised: Not only has Jane helped me considerably in planning the notes for Psyche, but the other day she switched over to my Introductory Notes for Volume 2 of “Unknown” Reality and began organizing them in the same loose way.

(The regular session was scheduled for this evening, but did not develop. These notes are from those I made Wednesday evening, but cannot be strictly verbatim because of the very nature of the experience. [...]

[...] She said perhaps, then reminded me she had suggested going out earlier—a suggestion I now remembered but hadn’t heeded at the time. [...] She felt “slightly” out of her body to her right as she sat there, but nothing drastic.

[...] but somebody’s around here, in an out-of-body state, I think. [...] When I said that—I don’t see anything—but I got the feeling of a car accident... [...]

[...] Her voice rose toward crying again but controlled this. “People are coming, but it seems like they’ll never get here. [...]

(Seth:) You have tales, but tonight is not the night of telling. [...] but I am used to it. [...] And you tossed it back and forth, but you did not collect and direct it properly, and we shall have to give you lessons. But you shall do the work.

[...] But you have not been serious enough about using it, nor have you been playful enough to use it without serious note. [...] But in between you will not use it at all, for you cannot harness it. [...] But in your mundane moments, you will not achieve it. [...]

[...] but not forgiving. The personality should not be indulged, but it should not be shown dissonance... [...]

[...] But then you may get more than your friend Ruburt. [...]

You need not have stiff muscles if you sit for a long period—but you will indeed if you believe that you will. The body literally changes instantaneously, but if, you believe that time must be involved to whatever degree, then, it will of course happen that way. [...]

[...] But when you take over the responsibility for washing his clothes you are denying him acts that he did do—and can do, and adding to a sense of powerlessness in that regard. Help him wring out his slacks, for example, when he has trouble doing so, but do not automatically wash his things for him.

I will make suggestions pertaining to class, but suggestions only. [...] Some kind of relaxed, intimate class framework will be beneficial, but a far smaller class. [...]

(We sat for the usual Monday session last night, but I was so tired that it never developed.

To answer the questions you need to feel your reality at any given moment, to follow your own thoughts, but not only your thoughts, but your physical sensations, the sensations of physical life. [...] Now I knew you would evade the questions, so that is all right and it was part of the lesson but you must encounter your own vitality. [...]

Now in her (Bette) emotional response and in his (Ned) emotional response, you found a clear answer to the question and the answers were not the same but they were felt and honest and you (Arnold) came close but then you hid within the concepts. [...]

Now I would like you, in the following week, to think of these questions again but answer them from a feeling level, from an experience level and then answer them as simply as you can verbally. But in finding the answers for yourselves you should have experiences that you may not be able to verbalize. [...]

[...] Not control, but spontaneity, Now I did not say this, but spontaneity knows its own control, that is an entirely different sort. [...]

[...] But you can also choose any number of adjacent areas, and there are interconnections between them. But since you must start somewhere, we will start with Alpha I and not with Alpha II. But you will learn to feel your own experience in reality in many other layers of consciousness. [...]

Now we will see to it, if he does not tell you, that these steps are clearly given, but you will discover them for yourselves. Some of you are quite familiar with what we will class, or Ruburt will call, Alpha V or VI, but the time has come for you to start at the beginning and work your way through. [...]

You can all learn to use this initial state of altered consciousness, and we will be dealing with it often in class, but you will each be dealing with it in your private lives. You will learn to examine it, but more than this you will learn to cherish it as you should cherish all the states of consciousness that you discover in yourselves and in others. [...]

[...] He has the feeling, I will not say he has been given the feeling, but he has it, that his father demands a strong emotional attachment on his part and deep loyalty, and he relates strongly to him for this reason, but when the father is absent then he experiences hesitation. [...]

(To Bobby.) And I hesitate to bring this up but our friend, here in the middle, was a Brother in an order in the 15th century in Denmark and it was a secret order that operated underground, so to speak. [...] An inquiring mind, but also, because of past experience, can also latch upon an idea and never give it up. [...] Now I am speaking now of any given particular issue, not for example, of an entire mental life style, but beneath the humility a stubbornness; an attention to detail; a freedom of thought on the one hand, but an attention to detail having to do also, with this life when you took care of a sacristy and attended to altar veils and the placement of candles, missals and statues in specific and given places. [...]

[...] But I also want you to know that your present thoughts, feelings and emotions not only affect you but affect your probable selves and yet .... [...]

[...] Beyond this, however, as I believe I mentioned in a few classes, it is not out of the inner sense of my invisible heart but out of the depths of your own psychology that you make me into the image of a wise old man and project upon me authority images that lurk in your own mind. [...] Now my voice is loud but the voice of the inner self is very still and you must be quiet to hear it and so from the loudness of my voice let your self run inward into that silence that is very active. [...]

To explain the analogy that is what I used, but the feeling of continuity is continuous. [...] This is not ananalogy but for you there is a continuity of experience. [...]

[...] “I have some difficulties with Ruburt’s own stubborn attitude at times; but we must also take this into consideration, and so we shall … I will seriously endeavor to do what I can do, within our circumstances. [...] It goes without saying that all of this cannot happen overnight, but we shall begin. [...] But since we understand both the potentialities and limitations, then we can make the most of what we have.”

[...] I don’t know what I expected from Dr. Osis, but I sure as the devil wasn’t ready to see what Seth could or could not do. Seth offered to carry out the experiment, but I held back. [...]

[...] “But it sure would be a great help if he was.” [...] Perhaps, but Seth didn’t fit the picture of any of the case histories we’d read—and neither did I.

[...] But I felt in control of these, while Seth was in control of sessions, and to me this made a difference. I agreed to the new trance procedure, but it was still some time before it became the rule rather than the exception. [...]

[...] A simple declarative belief, but it is qualified. You believe you can make money—if you are a commercial artist, or if you take a job, or if you do almost anything else but your best work as an artist. [...] Between the two beliefs however there is some conflict, since you believe you also need money for your self-respect, but that you cannot get it by being an artist, which you feel is your focus of identity, and highly concerned with self-respect.

[...] But here he can say now instead: “It is not necessarily so. [...] I’ll try it,” which allows a breathing space and a slight weakening of previous conditioning, in which he is no longer taking negative beliefs as fact, but looking at them as beliefs.

[...] Today’s mixture of walking, stimulation and facing the public (while shopping) is highly advantageous, but he should compare his condition not with others but with his reality.

You doubted that your own good work would bring any financial success at all, while you believed that commercial work would; but you do not like commercial work. [...]

There is a change of territory involved here, but more than this a change of method. [...] These men now below the main structure, attempt to influence those of whom I have spoken, but here we have a wheel rather than a pyramid or triangle, for there is little agreement even among those directly involved.

But there is also another triangle, and this is the meaning of the symbol. [...] But both of these triangles lead to a future triangle in which you will be intimately involved if you continue your bulldog tactics.

[...] (Humorous.) But use it you must or it could destroy the foundations of your vitality. [...] But make sure that when you try to breathe vitality into your company, and form it, that you form it for the good. [...]

The other man will be strong but his strength and yours will reinforce each other. But he will want different things so your conflicts will be minimized. [...]

(Jason Hatton of Pittsburgh, PA discussed how he had developed his talents after leaving the church and wanting to use these to help others, but mainly being interested in healing. He related a dream in which he went to turn the TV set off, but it stayed on no matter how many times he clicked it off and on. He then put a lead shield over it, but this didn’t help. [...]

[...] There seems to be another person involved, not on your part, but on the other party’s side. [...] These could be a smothering effect that you would try to conquer, but in doing so, there would be the tendency that you would try too hard. [...] There seems to be another offer, perhaps three months in the distance, that would be much more, not only to your advantage, but to the advantage of others. [...]

[...] Now there is nothing for you to fear but remember, whenever you feel strongly, very strongly, against any given issue, there are usually more reasons behind your feelings than you know. There are always obvious reasons that you can point to, but the emotional charge that exists within you on these issues is highly important and should be examined and investigated by you in the same way, you see, that you would investigate it if you saw it in someone else. [...]

[...] This was supposed to be your break, but I could not stand such a long face over here. [...] I will let you return, and then I will return but I had to catch him on that. [...]

I took Phil at his word, but I also thought that coincidence could have explained the episode. [...] I agreed, but when I became tense it was difficult to relax enough to have a session. I skipped our next scheduled session as a result, but I’d recovered my equilibrium when the next Monday came.

[...] But as a fish swims through water, but the fish is not the water, I am not Ruburt’s subconscious.

One small but amusing incident came up that illustrates my attitude during those early months. [...] I knew that this was a crazy place for a refrigerator, but after a while I became used to it.

In other words, I used to watch Seth like a hawk, particularly during the first year or so, but he always behaved intelligently, with dignity and humor. [...] He has given us excellent, psychologically sound advice, but he never tried to give us orders.

[...] He could theoretically move to a better vantage point in the twinkling of an eye, relatively speaking, but for now we must largely use analogies. Those analogies may lead you or Ruburt, or a few others, to a more advantageous vantage point, so that certain leaps become possible—but those leaps, you see, are not just leaps of intellect but of will and intuition alike, fused and focused.

2. We moved from our downtown apartments into the hill house almost five years ago (in March 1975), but Jane thinks she tried to write the poem Seth referred to several years before that. [...] Jane has stacks of journals, poetry notebooks, manuscripts, and loose notes of all kinds, but neither of us could dig out what we wanted. [...] “But I know I didn’t throw out whatever I did on that poem,” Jane said. [...]

[...] I had no trouble with the self-portrait, but still ended up quite frustrated. [...] I could always make another attempt tomorrow morning, of course, but for some reason I was rebelling at admitting my failure today.

[...] (Pause.) Others saw you but were unconcerned, showing that the concern was your own, but also expressing the feeling that the world might not really care.

[...] Now you follow them but you (Rose) will not remember; and you (Sally) follow them sometimes; and you (Rachel) follow them sometimes; and you (Amelia) are beginning to put one foot upon the path; and you (Brad) have not as yet allowed yourself to remember any of your dream encounters. But the point is that you can indeed learn to do this—that it is not impossible. It is not only probable, but it is not even difficult. [...]

Consciously you knew this was a rich country in your present life, but unconsciously you held to these old feelings of fear. [...] The man was the kind who gained feelings of superiority and pleasure from helping you, but also helped you quite legitimately and kindly. [...] Now she, for quite other reasons, was attracted to you, but you have been terrified that alone you could not make it and would not survive. [...]

[...] For information is given to you not only in your waking, conscious, alert daily life but in what you would call your unconscious sleep state. [...] But it can learn to look inward, change the focus of its awareness and take quick pictures of this inner environment. [...]

You (Rachel) are somewhat like Ruburt, in that you are gifted but you are also highly cautious. [...] You will not be depleted, but refreshed. [...]

[...] “I could go to bed right now,” she said, “but it’s too early — I’d be getting up all night. Right now I don’t feel Seth around, though, but we’ll see … My spine’s got all kinds of feelings in it that I’m not used to, but they’re good ones. [...] But I feel him around now. [...]

[...] I’ve deliberately let a few go for a while because I was busy on other things, but haven’t simply forgotten any. Jane missed the September 3 session, but when she asked me about it a few days ago I replied that I was up to date. [...]

(9:23.) The natural person is to be found, now, not in the past or in the present, but beneath layers and layers of official beliefs, so you are dealing with an archeology of beliefs to find the person who creates beliefs to begin with. As I have said often, evidence of clairvoyance, telepathy, or whatever, are not eccentric, isolated instances occurring in man’s experience, but are representative of natural patterns of everyday behavior that become invisible in your world because of the official picture of behavior and reality.

You might combat those beliefs, struggle against them, but they still carried great weight. [...]