“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(We’d wanted to read over some of the late sessions today, but didn’t do it. [...] She had some right leg sensations—strong enough to notice but not nearly as strong as before, and she’s had them “off and on all day, particularly in the knee and lower leg. [...]

(Long pause at 8:58.) The Sinful Self obviously is not a burden that Ruburt carries alone, but one inherent in your civilization. [...] (Long pause.) In terms of goodness, you can certainly tell the Sinful Self that health and vitality are indeed not only good, but in their way they represent the spiritual attributes. [...]

(It had rained hard after supper, but slackened as session time drew close. [...] But they became much more quiet as the session progressed.)

[...] Again, the feelings of panic will naturally subside, but they are important for they are in their way the signs of the child crying—and earlier, Ruburt as the adult would not listen. [...]

[...] Then more sensations; or rather, again I felt sensations that were concepts translated into feeling rather than words; but feelings and images. Here I started to feel the microscopic nature of our planet, comparatively speaking; a shrinking a momentary sense of desolation that was my own, I think; there was no attempt to deny integrity or uniqueness of physical life; but only to express... [...] Earlier I thought of just yelling out to the personality, look forget it; but couldn’t find vocal chords or something; the personality was using them. [...]

[...] It seemed as if the room now was almost huge enough to take up all of Elmira; but I didn’t feel as if; I felt as if this were actually happening. [...] The meaning of the experience is stated in the final part of the session, so there is no need to go into it here; suffice it to say that the experience had a meaning, was not random but highly selective, and would be listed in our classification as “experiencing a concept.” [...]

[...] If a psychologist wants to say simply: Hallucination, then he would have to admit it was hardly a random thing; but well directed, to a point and for a purpose. [...] But I broke in, before the onrush of sensations the last time; sensing that they were about to occur, so obviously I had learned from the first episode.

(After coming out, kept feeling inclined to go right; as if partially moving out of my body but not nearly that strong or vivid; merely a feeling that I wasn’t entirely inside body but half out to the right in a shadowy rather than substantial fashion. [...]

[...] It will lead you into the understanding that your hopes, as you think of them in the present, exist not only in what you think of as the present, but in the past and future as well. [...] It seems to you that there is no other existence for you personally but this room and this time and this moment and yet, of course, you create it. [...]  What I say is as intimate to you as your own breath is if you would but feel your breath. If you would but once give up the defenses that you have set between what you think of as your intellect and what you think of as the rest of the self. [...]

([Valerie:] “But later when it spoke to me it didn’t seem to be speaking like that.”)

[...] Now at one time you misused them, but they are yours nevertheless and now you are not using them to their full extent. [...]

[...] But consciously a group of people upon this earth managed to remember old truths. [...]

So beliefs about Ruburt’s body on both of your parts, but of course primarily on Ruburt’s part, must be understood as beliefs that then cause physical experience. Some of these have already begun to vanish, but both of you to some extent project them into the future, treat them as conditions in fact, and not as beliefs that cause conditions.

[...] It means that within the gradations offered you will not have a good time, but will compare what you have with a “perfect” freedom that Ruburt now does not possess. All of this because of your beliefs about Ruburt’s body—again, primarily Ruburt’s beliefs, but yours also. [...]

[...] The inner conditions are being righted, but Ruburt must see himself in his mind walking better—not perfectly but better for now, and he has begun in point of power to learn how to do that.

You do not need to imagine him arising with your flexibility, nor should he at this point, but you should each expect continued improvement, and gradations of ever-growing freedom of mobility. [...] For that “condition” is not a permanent thing, but a changing reality, an improving condition.

[...] I don’t know what, but I feel there is something there that should be worked out, so I gave myself the suggestion for a dream concerning this, and I got one which dealt with my older brother Tommy. In it I was telling him to sit down, and I was trying to talk to him, but I couldn’t, but finally I did and what I’m wondering, because I’ve had this three or four times in the dream state, trying to talk. [...]

As so often happens you are each involved now, not only in this class, but with another. Now you need not close your eyes but if you listen to your own inner voice, and if you allow yourself the freedom, and if you understand the nature of probabilities, then as I speak and as you listen you can indeed, to some extent, perceive the other reality, the specific reality of which I am speaking in which you also exist as a group. [...] The indirections of personality occur there as they do here but with some very important differences. [...]

[...] The abilities that you show are quite your own, and I would like to see you bring them to the surface and use them but then I am certain that you will do so. I cannot always speak to each of you individually, but I do speak to you individually and you should know what I mean by that sentence. [...]

I welcome those who are new this evening, but I have some remarks for our regular students having to do with your dreams. [...]

The adjustments necessary are not all on your part, but your adjustments can initiate hers. You are concerned, and have made efforts, but you are better equipped, simply because of your personality structure, to make these efforts. She is at this point like a child in the woods, but the potentialities are there for an excellent relationship. [...]

[...] He is an excellent medical representative for Searle Drug, but feels he is not being extended enough in his work; he wants more challenge. Seth has advised patience here; John said this is difficult for him but that he is carefully considering the advice. [...]

(Seth offered to go over the test material but we went on with more material for John Bradley, the witness. [...] She saw a wedge-shaped light strip, horizontally, but could tell no more than this.

[...] I had suggested earlier in the day that she skip the session but she declined. [...]

[...] It seems you want immediate results, but it all takes time— (humorously.

The other information given still applies, but all of it unfolds in your terms of time. [...]

[...] You cannot do it for him, but you can help or impede his progress.

[...] But in his scheme of beliefs a cough can be rather easily dispensed with, and he was aware of this.

[...] You may not have always been aware of these other conscious portions of yourself, but they are not vague. [...] But these portions are as critical and even as intellectual and as waking and as valid and as real as the consciousness with which you are ordinarily familiar. [...]

Pretend, pretend that yourself...your whole identity, is a tape, such as being used here, but in stereophonic. [...] They must learn to tune in, but many of them have already learned this knowledge and it is part of their own training. [...]

[...] Now, when you truly understand this, you can change it for the better, but until you really understand the truth behind my words, then you will look for excuses. Now you may partially be taken in by the excuses—Ruburt may be partially taken in by the excuses, but I am not taken in by the excuses! And an inner part of your own consciousness is not taken in by the excuses either! [...]

[...] You have not one, but many conscious selves. [...]

[...] When you say the lilies of the field may, lose a leaf or two, but still have a great deal of protection, I was wondering had Ned’s fish, perhaps. In his case it was only an image, but in my case, suppose I had a probable fish. [...]

[...] You hear the words and yet you do not understand what they really mean, but basically, you do violence to no one. Basically, you cannot hurt anything, but as long as you think that you can, then you must dwell within that reality. [...]

[...] You may think you misuse it, but you are not allowed to misuse it. [...] If you kill, and believe that you kill, you will bear those consequences at this level of your development, but to think that you can destroy a consciousness would make the gods laugh. [...]

[...] They ate, for example, both human beings and animals, but they did not eat indiscriminately, nor did they eat without a knowledge of what they did. [...] But at their level, and in their level of experience, they partook of the sacrament of life as they ate those things that they slayed. [...]

While in conventional terms you think of long centuries’ duration, in which finned creatures rose from the seas, some “becoming” reptiles and finally mammals, many did not make that journey but “fell” along the way. [...] Not necessarily because you did not want to be born, but because those experiences were in themselves legitimate,² and in your present state are written in the “memory” of your physical being.

But all things have consciousness, and in those terms possess a soul-nature. [...] Of course the fetus “has a soul” — but in the same way, if you think in those terms, then each cell within the fetus must be granted a soul (leaning forward with humorous emphasis, voice deeper). The course of a cell is not predetermined. [...]

(10:02.) Give us a moment … But the body is a context that they have chosen to experience. In fulfilling themselves the cells aid your own existence, but in a framework they have chosen. [...]

But for such consciousnesses the bulk of their activities will be elsewhere, possibly in other probable realities, possibly in nonphysical realities that we can hardly imagine from our own vantage points. [...] I really believe that those “certain needs” can have vast implications, by the way, but this isn’t the place to attempt a discussion of such aspects of reality.

(Jane felt quite lethargic and sleepy as the day wore on, but did not believe this state had anything to do with our active weekend. She worked well at her writing this morning, but grew increasingly drowsy as the day wore on. [...]

[...] She mentioned this to me, but I had no real intimation that she was in anything but a very relaxed state. [...]

[...] She was going to tell me about it, but then decided she didn’t know what to say. But she felt “disconnected,” and recalled her psychological time experience of the morning, in which she felt “separated.” [...]

The slight but perceivable feeling of lightness in his hands could have given him notice of this fact. [...]

The tangerine then would be compared to a group of many systems, and yet it would represent in itself but one small portion of an unperceived whole. The tangerine would be but one segment, you see, of a larger system. [...]

Practically speaking, this is seldom done, but it has been on occasion. [...] Now in a creative individual, some of these could be expressed symbolically in a painting or other work of art, but the ego could not consider them as actual.

[...] There is a strong connection here I have been trying to get through, but it is for now too difficult for Ruburt to catch. All of the experience an artist has gained is in any given painting, not physically perceived, but strongly perceived by the inner senses.

Later you may not recall it, but you have a more direct connection with reality in the dream state, and the intensity of the dream experience is more completely perceived. [...]

[...] use them joyfully and gladly and well but do not identify with them for they are not you. [...] But again, coming here once a week may help you find yourself... [...] but you will only find yourself when you journey inward. [...] You know you are more than what you refer to as your conscious I. But you should know it through experience! [...]

[...] But we need more than that. [...] But it will do you little good unless you use it. [...] but the experience is personal and the experience is subjective and the journey is one that you must make and that you must make alone. [...]

[...] But with practice, there is a subjective knowing that you will recognize and understand. But you use the ability whether you realize you use it or not. [...]

[...] And all that you want will be given to you, but you must want what you want desperately enough, wholeheartedly enough. An intellectual curiosity will give you some answers but it will not give you the deepest answers. [...]

[...] But we need more than that. [...] But it will do you little good unless you use it. [...]

But again, coming here once a week may help you find yourself—it may point you in the right direction—but you will only find yourself when you journey inward. [...]

[...] But with practice, there is a subjective knowing that you will recognize and understand. But you use the ability whether you realize you use it or not. [...]

[...] And all that you want will be given to you, but you must want what you want desperately enough, wholeheartedly enough. An intellectual curiosity will give you some answers but it will not give you the deepest answers. [...]

I would also have greeted Ruburt’s father, but indeed I was not invited to join the graceful family circle. [...] The woman, seriously, has found some comfort with Ruburt’s father, but the personality is in sore trouble, and explosive. [...]

[...] The mental enclosure in most cases is self-limiting then, since it represents a setting up of barriers on all sides but one. But it is limiting only for the ultimate purpose of intense concentration of energy, resulting in a burst or expansion of this energy that has been transformed and pressurized, so to speak, into new patterns.

The side which is open allows free flow of energy from the inner self, but momentarily the outlet for this energy is blocked up. This holding back, this gathering and collection without instant outlet, is one of the natural and constant processes involved not only in the construction of energy into matter, but in the construction of energy into any other form, and it is closely allied to the pause and pulsation that I have mentioned, as atoms and molecules appear and disappear imperceptibly, even while they seem to give continuity to any particular object.

He threw this thought back to his personal subconscious, but by association it triggered memory of a previous death by cancer, which was then played back through the dream. But even then the reassuring dream came first. [...]

[...] But they do not remain “healthy” either. [...] I will be physically flexible, but I will no longer use my creative abilities in the ways natural to me.” [...] But that is not where he is going.

[...] But the habits of secrecy continued, and there is no reason for secrecy but fear.

[...] But I say to you that literally no one has such a power. [...] But Ruburt has a highly symbolic mind as well as a highly literal one, so he has hidden behind closed doors.

Ruburt’s New York Times ad is delightful, but he no longer needs to depend upon that kind of prestige. [...] You do have equal contemporaries, unknown to you, but you are working at a different level. [...]

Why has no one suspected that dream locations have not only a psychological reality but a definite actuality? [...] Here is another point: Definite work may be done in a dream, but the physical arms and legs are not tired. This would seem contrary to your known laws, but no one has looked into this. [...]

[...] But at any of these ‘points,’ action moves out in all directions. [...] But this happens at the point of every moment. [...] Now, in the dream world, and in all such systems, development is achieved not by traveling your single line, but by delving into that point that you call a moment. [...]

What you will be, you are now, not in some misty half-real form but in a most real sense. [...] But each of you creates a dream world of validity, actuality, durability and self-determination, in the same way that the entity projects the reality of its various personalities. [...]

The dream world is, then, a natural by-product of the relationship between the inner self and the physical being — not a reflection, but a by-product — involving not only a chemical reaction, but also the transformation of energy from one state to another.

Again this in no way implies an invasion of Ruburt by myself, but instead implies an extension on Ruburt’s part to make way for the experience. It is not a lessening of self but an extension of self, so that the self-awareness can include not only self but independent (you may call this other) self experience, to include a value that is usually lacking in your ordinary behavior patterns.

[...] In its particular existence the spider is not aware of all this knowledge, but it uses what is necessary of it to construct its web. [...] There is of course no “I” consciousness, but there is direct consciousness, nevertheless, of the most intimate kind.

You construct your own camouflage existence as the spider constructs his web, but you are not aware of the threads. [...] The spider’s construction is severely limited to one plane, but this is not the case with your constructions, which may have reality on many planes at once, and in ways with which you are not familiar.

[...] Your plane seems to deal with cause and effect, but this is in itself a necessary camouflage. [...] This statement may seem contradictory but later you will see that it is not.

[...] I’d gained a reprieve, but the reprieve didn’t gain positive results. [...] I must have gotten to the point where I thought, “Okay, if you’re afraid to trust yourself completely, and your own life, let’s take a taste of what it’s like to have no other place to turn but the world of conventional medicine and beliefs.” [...] I’m not denying that such a framework has its good points, but the overall picture is really far worse than I’d imagined. [...]

[...] No need to go into details here, but it ended up with Jane asking me to get the notebook of sinful-self material. By then it was 9:00 PM, but she read a lot of it and said she was picking up some valuable insights.

(No sooner had we started than Bill Tolbert showed up to start mowing the grass and using his trimmer, which is even noisier than the mower, but Jane persevered after I shut doors and windows, depending on where Bill was working outside. [...] But all in all this material is good. [...]

[...] So taking a drug to prevent such a future development seemed the better side of wisdom to her—but not to me, not to Rob. [...] But all of a sudden my physical condition did seem horrendous, and I looked at her kindly concerned face, I’m sure, with appalling dismay. [...]

[...] Do not look to whoever is speaking for directions, but follow through. [...] If you feel, however, as if you would like to do it, but do not have the guts to do it, then trust yourself and go ahead. [...] If you feel like standing and looking out the window and turning your back to the whole thing, then do it, but at least know what your feelings are. [...]

[...] You do not have them now, but you will have them shortly for the session is not yet typed, but that will help clear up some of the questions that you have in your mind. [...]

But remember, all of you, that your reality is structured not in logical terms as you think of logic, but that your most chaotic dream, our redhead over here (Sheila), the most important symbolic episode and experiences that you have that seem so unstructured to you, and you do not understand them; that these have their own inner structure that is intuitive and you understand that structure very well whether or not you consciously admit that recognition. [...]

[...] It gives you a certain viewpoint and a certain framework from which to view reality, but it is not the only viewpoint that you have available to you, and it is not the only framework from which your reality springs. [...]