“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

You did not die by water, but it was a past reincarnational self and you nearly drowned and you were pursued by sharks, but you did not drown at that time. This was off the south coast of Africa in approximately 1342 and it was not a galley but another kind of ship, a native ship, but with a high mast.

Now, you must try to stretch your imagination and to feel these realities because the intellect alone cannot comprehend them. Now, psychological time is your best method for perceiving these actualities. You can feel what you cannot necessarily describe verbally, and know through direct experience what even the physical brain cannot describe nor comprehend, for you are more than the physical brain that you have now. I am no poet but then thinking of one of Ruburt’s poems, then think of the brain, indeed, as a web you form about the inner self. A web works to help you manipulate in a world of space and time which is, indeed, as nebulous and as precarious, and as delicate, as any spider’s web, and hangs indeed in as precarious a balance. You form this and then perceive the world, but your viewpoint is very small and the garden you perceive very intimate, but within yourself you have far greater abilities of perception and you are not limited to Wednesday or Thursday.

In your terms, and in your terms only, I could be referred to, and I told Ruburt this, as a sixth self of his in your future but this is only in your terms of reference and to get the idea across for he will not become what I am. That, you see, is impossible because I am myself and so verbally there are certain answers that cannot be given but must be intuitively understood. But the fact that I exist and can communicate should show you in simple terms, and in your terms of reference, that other “higher aspects” of your personality can help you out on occasion and do exist.

I am not cautious, I am simply realistic and when you understand the nature of reality then you realize that predictions of future events are basically meaningless. Now you can predict some events and they occur, but you create the future in every moment in your frame of reference, and time in your terms is plastic. Most predictions are made in a highly distorted fashion, and they lead the public astray. Not only that, but when the predictors fall flat on their faces it does not help “the Cause.” Reality does not exist in that fashion. You can tune in to certain probabilities and predict “that they will occur,” but free will always operates and no god in giant ivory figures says, this will happen February 15th at 8:05 and if no god predicts, then I do not see the point of doing so myself.

[...] The first one came early this morning after I’d shoveled but a few scoops of snow in the driveway—no work involved at all, really, but I had to quit for fear of having an “attack” of some kind. [...]

[...] I still want to study all of those early personal sessions, but haven’t progressed far because of all the new material we’ve been getting lately. But they’re always there, waiting. [...]

[...] Now, that is legitimate as an artistic judgment—but it is illegitimate as a moral judgment. [...] They are individuals, doing their best to develop their abilities and their lives—but your indignation was moral in narrow terms, rather than in quite acceptable artistic ones. [...]

(8:52.) You judge the world, but in far more rigorous terms morally than either of you really realize. [...] But the overly conscientious selves are not separate versions of you, really. [...]

[...] I can verbalize some answers for you, and I try to do so, but through direct experience and through opening yourselves up you will receive direct knowledge even though you may not be able to verbalize it later. [...] There is nothing wrong and much good to understand and receiving such information, but this is not all you should be concerned with. [...] Between sounds, between objects, not in your thoughts but between your thoughts, and there you will find answers but not to questions that you postulate in a demanding manner. [...]

[...] They may not have physical brains but they all have minds of their own as you would interpret it, and they are highly active. [...] As soon as you ask questions, you are necessarily directing information in a certain manner which is all right, but for counterpoint this week simply listen. [...]

[...] Forget that the plant speaks to you, but what does the plant on its own say? [...] Not as you are related to the tree, but what does it say, for it speaks. [...]

Now I will let Ruburt have his spectacles back, but I want to open you all up to those unspecified dimensions that escape your notice. I do not know whether you will have a class break, but you will have a Seth break. [...]

[...] You not only form the future, as you think of it, but you also form the past. You have been told simple tales, and they are delightful ones; but if you were not ready to hear more you would not be in this room.

[...] I am no poet, but as in one of Ruburt’s poems, think of the brain as a web you form about the inner self. [...] You form this and then perceive the world, but your viewpoint is very small and the garden you perceive very intimate. [...]

[...] Ruburt will also, but he is not at that stage yet, in your terms. [...] In your terms only, I could be referred to — and I have told Ruburt this — as a sixth self of his in his future; but this is only to get the idea across, for he will not become what I am. [...]

[...] Not only that, but when the predictors fall flat on their faces it does not help “The Cause.” [...] You can tune in to certain probabilities and predict “that they will occur,” but free will always operates. [...]

[...] But again, there are infinite realities, as vivid, and some indescribably more vivid than your own, but presently you are not focused upon them.

It may be thought of in an analogy, as a shadow, in that you create it or project it, but without conscious knowledge. [...] But it does not vanish when the ego blots out the inner light from the whole self. [...]

[...] One is a conceptual energy force reality which is much more than some theoretical world of ideas, but a reality in which individual energy is used in a constant manipulation of idea or concepts into constructions that, while not physical in your terms, is nevertheless a vivid and actual, concrete field of manipulated and applied force in which matter may be, but is not always, an end result.

[...] Jane has also begun the study of psychological time on a regular basis, but has nothing of note to report yet, beyond a few glimmerings.

[...] Now, one of these roses leaves the familiar world that it knows and embarks upon out-of-body experiences quite frequently, but this rose has a beautiful memory. In the out-of-body state this rose remembers all the out-of-body experiences it has had, but when it comes back to the body it forgets them all. It is not necessary that you remember, but if you want to remember, then indeed you can. And so the why would take too long this evening but I will answer it for you as circumstances permit. [...] Now, I will give you some information on the subject, though it is too late this evening, and if you want some specific exercises that you personally can use, I do not know that you will smell as sweet as a rose on your return, but we will see to it that you get the exercises. [...]

([Kyle:] “I think so, but it seems to me we have to build off each other. I try to fight it, but for one person to build up his own ego, he has to push down other people and I say this is wrong but I see it all around me.”)

[...] They can tell you, to some extent, much that you do not know, but unless they really know who and what they are individually, they can lead you astray. [...] They are free with their energy, but they use it as a fine jeweled rope so that their force can be so fascinating to you that you do not realize that you are being bound about the neck. [...]

[...] Therefore, listen to your own inner voice and follow your way, but do not trust those who tell you that good vibrations are here with A and B and C and bad vibrations are with E, F, G and H, for the energy that forms All That Is is within each. [...] Use your abilities to find out your reality but do not deprive another of his reality and do not allow yourself to become impressed. [...]

[...] But he is not aware of you as you know yourselves, and he is scarcely aware of me as I know myself. He is aware of me, but in another context, and in another dimension of existence. [...]

[...] And I should tell you that I have deep sympathy—but your time is not my time. [...] Now I will let you take a rest period, but I have not said good evening, and you can all be comfortable. [...]

[...] Ruburt’s personality is a walk [warphandwritten in margin], in dimensions, but your personalities are also walks [warps] in dimensions... [...] You will find old friends, but you will find more than old friends and they will help you in your search. [...]

[...] You must not just listen to my words but realize not only that you are more than your ego, but that you can perceive more than your ego perceives. [...]

I have indeed been here before, but then I have been in all the residences of our students. [...] I may not be able to put them together again but I will pick them up. [...] You have nothing to fear but me. [...]

[...] But in contrast to what you could use, this is nothing. And you (Florence) must not compare yourself to others, but compare yourself to your own potential. [...] You can experience them for yourself to some degree if you but try. [...]

That is frightening, but it goes to show you that even I have things to learn... [...] Circumstances vary, but if you are lucky—and I hope you will be lucky—then your intellectual faculties will continue to operate. [...]

[...] I want you to use your intuitions, but I also want you to use your intellects. [...] But if you continue here in classes, more and more you will have to give. [...]

“A few could write their names, but usually they couldn’t read other people’s names. [...] But they thought that drinking water was unhealthy. It was hilly and rocky behind the village, but there was a stream up there, and they went up with horses and buckets. But they didn’t drink the water. [...]

[...] “But it was something like a moving picture I was looking at from some crazy angle. [...] Not really there like I’m in this room now … but … partially floating. [...] But your vision was quicker, more limited, but very precise.”

“This thing will never work,” I said.
“We must be out of our minds,”
But we weren’t, at least not yet.
The cat smiled but didn’t say anything.

[...] We locked the door and closed the blinds but always left the lights on for the sessions. We began this one with the Ouija board, but after only a few moments, I shoved it aside and began dictating as Seth. [...]

This experience alone with me will yield financial benefits, but not because you would naturally like it to be so, but because you are expanding, and for some other allied causes. [...] You were saddled with rather troublesome ones, and for reasons which I will go into sometime later; but not involving guilt of any sort.

To me this is all so obvious that I almost hesitate to mention it, but this is because I tend to forget what human existence on your plane actually involves. These are but one set of parents. [...] You see, when you really realize the sum of yourself these problems will fade entirely, but please in the meantime take my word for it.

You cannot of course perform such an achievement yet, but I hope that one day we may attain it. As far as I know this has not been tried on such a scale, but only because all prerequisite circumstances have not been met.

[...] Jane had awareness of her surroundings but still felt like “taking off.” She had been pacing very fast, but her voice was little stronger than usual.

[...] You were cultured for the times but without way, and made a living writing letters for other people. You had a fondness for music but all your life you copied the notes and letters of others. You learned discipline, for to a large extent you did not allow yourself to express your own creativity but put yourself at the service of the communication of others. [...]

I have seen many starers in my day, but I have never seen a starer such as this one, and if there are holes in our poor friend Ruburt’s back, when the session is over then you had better stuff them with cotton, but know where they came from. [...] I will have more to say about healing this evening, but I am going to let you take a break so that our friend here can beat her weary way home. [...]

[...] In the beginning you were stricken by poverty, but taken in by a wealthy man in a town within this province. There you performed as a young man household chores but learned the flute from the younger son of the family. [...]

The music represented your main interest then in several lives, but behind this has always been an interest in emotions translated into some kind of creativity such as music or art; but also, at times an oversusceptibility to emotions so that they drove you, and you could find no escape from them. [...]

Now our friend, Ruburt, is not about to go for all this sexual hanky-panky that is described in this precious book, but the man who wrote the book picked up his information from the inner self and then he made a story about it. And when you come to class from now on I will expect to find you all here, not just the physical self, not just the intellectual self, not just the portions of yourself that you term, psychically inclined, but the emotional self. [...]

[...] It is true I have not cried, but if things continue as they are, I may be about to, for I want your entire self here and expressive. [...] But to come truly alive, and to come truly alive in this room, you must show far more. [...]

[...] You listen to the words and that is all, but the power behind the words, and the power behind the voice, is emotional power and emotional energy and it represents, again, energy that is within each of you and there is no need to be afraid of it. [...] You do not lose, but gain. [...]

Now we have spoken in terms that you could understand, the nature of your world and reality as you know it, but you have not taken the stuff of reality into your hearts and understood it and this is what you must now begin to learn to do. In other words, you must accept the emotional self, not superficially, not idealistically, but as it now exists. [...]

[...] But within that context, your experience is far different. [...] Now, in other realities and in the Alpha state, there are certain root assumptions like your objects, but you will perceive these again in your own individual manner, and you must learn to differentiate there as you do here. [...] It is to everyone, but it is to you (Sue) in this instance. [...]

[...] Do not insist it must necessarily mean that this is completely your imagination, or hogwash, or that it is the God’s truth on the other hand, and that there is nothing but an abyss between. [...] But because you insist it must be one thing or another, legitimate reincarnational information or complete fantasy, there was no way he could give you this information clearly, except in the way that he gave it to you. So do not thrust it aside and do not blame your Jason or yourself, but be thankful for what you have, which is valid information. [...]

[...] It seems to you that there are divisions within it, but it is only because from your point of view, you are working upward. You are learning to open these channels to that identity, but that identity within each of you is infinite. [...] But you must persist. [...]

Now, when you change the character of the ego as you think of it, you change it not only for yourselves, but for the species of which you are a part. [...] So you work not only for yourselves, but you work for others, and you change not only yourselves, but you change others, and you alter the species of which you are a part. [...]

Now what I tell you, to some extent, must be distorted because when I speak I use words, but the inner self interprets the words that are spoken. [...] You do not need me to sit here and speak to you but physically you think that you do and so I am here. Physically you believe that you are here and so you are here but other portions of your identity are in other places and other times, and I use those terms very loosely. They are only to make you happy because the words, times and places, have a meaning to you but in your basic reality you do not know times nor places. [...]

[...] Now you cannot verbalize what I am or what happens in this room, but then, you cannot verbalize what you are or what happens within yourself or within your mind. And there are journeys that each of you embark upon, and you do not know in words the nature of the destination, and you do not know when you arrive at this destination, and you do not know when the destination is no longer a destination but a way. [...]

[...] You deal with the words physically but your inner self has no need of verbalization. [...] You know but you cannot find the words. [...]

[...] You have little contact with these but always the inner self remembers its offspring. [...] Your system can be likened to a probability system that was latent always within our own capabilities but was not actualized within our experience. [...]

You could have followed still another course—one in which you did not become involved in any intellectual or challenging concepts but bypassed them completely. That kind of painting can be excellent, but it also involves an intense immersion in the emotions, to the exclusion of any important conceptualizing. The greatest kind of painting includes both the intuitions and the intellect, but in your terms this also requires the maturing of the high intellect. [...]

[...] Again, you recognize them, but you do not try to rise above them emotionally. The painting does not bring in money, so to punish yourself you do not enjoy it sufficiently—but concentrate upon the distractions instead. You do your financial part with the books, but you still tie in your social identity with your painting, and to some extent you still feel that that social identity is dependent upon the money your “art” should produce, so you punish yourself by not enjoying your painting time. [...]

[...] You are determined to use your abilities, but you are ever on your guard to see that you use your abilities, and that they do not “use you;” so you set up working habits, but you do not allow yourself a real environment of freedom in which to work. [...]

[...] Some of your private and joint problems spring from cultural beliefs that you are intellectually aware of, but not emotionally free from. [...] You are aware of the connection, but you make no attempt to get above it.

[...] The five hundred and some-odd sessions we have barely represent an outline, but they are enough to start with. [...] But you cannot utilize the material until you understand it.

This sense is much like empathy, but far more vital. (Seth says that we can’t experience these Inner Senses in their full intensity now, because our nervous systems can’t handle that much stimuli.) It’s difficult to categorize experiences of this kind, but I think that I was using inner vibrational touch in the following instance:

[...] We are not to be psychic Peeping Toms, but should use these abilities only to help others or, joyfully, as we use muscles and bones. The intent is important, but I don’t believe that you can use these senses wrongfully in any basic way; if you aren’t ready to utilize them properly, your own personality will see to it that you don’t use them consciously at all.

[...] I do not harp to you about theory simply because I want to spout theory, but because I want you to put these ideas into practice.”

[...] Her voice was but a little stronger than normal, her pacing regular, her eyes dark as usual. Her delivery in the beginning was rather slow and interspersed with pauses, but after a page or so it began to pick up speed, until she had me writing at a pretty good rate. [...]

[...] Not a reflection, therefore, but a by-product involving not only a chemical reaction but the transformation of energy from one state to another.

[...] Eyes closed tightly but I saw a flood of light, same quality as daylight. [...] So definite, vivid and unmistakable that I thought my eyes must be open—but they were not. [...]

(October 16, Friday: Didn’t try Psy-time, but lay down on bed for a nap, being tired. [...] Again, it was so clear I was almost sure eyes must be open, but they were closed. [...]

[...] It delights you but you are like a man with a beautiful wife. He shows her off (Jane leaned forward for emphasis, eyes open and very dark), but he does not really let her work or be herself. [...] But you do not allow it its full penetrating freedom.

Now by all conventional standards I should say to you: but for such a young man indeed, you have time to learn. (Smile.) You will learn, and are learning, but you have dealt also with this problem in different ways in other lives, so it is not so new to you. [...] So your intellect should not be superficially enjoyed, but deeply used.

You wind it up like a fine toy, but you are careful of the directions in which you let it run. Now I am not saying, and do not mean, that you are narrow-minded in any way I am saying that your intellect is a fine one, but you have allowed yourself to be fascinated by its sparkling quality, and not used it thoroughly as a tool.

[...] Jane began speaking for Seth, in trance, in a voice good but not exceptional. [...]

You can, indeed, but do not deny the part of you that wanted to wring the other man’s neck. But you were so frightened of the thought that you immediately inhibited it. [...] Now, say the following happened, at least you were aware of the thought, but say, in your terms, you progressed to the point where you were no longer aware of the feeling. [...]

Our poor man again is aware, subconsciously of the intent, but only to some degree. [...] Now, far be it from me, even in a fantasy, to accuse you of such an act, but you stand here and look at a slattern and this time you are out of your mind. But again, it behooves you to deny your true feelings in order to be spiritual, which is not true spirituality and you say again, God bless you, may you go in peace, and this time the psychic safety valve has had too much. [...]

It does, indeed, in your terms, but that knowledge is also available to you. [...] The holy soul turned inside out is some fleshpot, let’s put it that way, but you have always been involved with questions concerning good and evil and you had two existences in two civilizations in Egypt. [...] It is not a fascinating story to be told for your edification and enjoyment so I hope you will enjoy it when it comes, but it will help when you can understand it. [...]

[...] There have been many other classes and you have all been a part of them, not necessarily with me but with others. [...] You all know what association is, it operates not only within one life, but between lives, in your terms; so that words and phrases spoken now will trigger the memories but these memories will become alive if you allow them to. [...]

There is a delicate balance to be maintained, but energy will come to you. [...] But from this passionate oath of involvement will be wrung the final intense isolation and comprehension from which your best work will come. [...]

There can be no holding back of commitment, involvement, or ability in one aspect of your lives but it will be reflected in others, that is in other aspects where you want growth. You know I do not mean that you should give your energy to every weird cause, but that you should speak out your opinions, that you should use your abilities in your outside endeavors for your own sake. [...]

“It” means added complexity, but you will synthesize this complexity in your work, and you must. [...] If you follow this advice you will find extra dimension, not only in your work but in all aspects of your daily lives, both psychic and physical. [...]

[...] But from now on he should begin to use, and insist upon using, his abilities; not only in his own work but in his dealings with the outside world as far as occupation is concerned.