“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Now for two concluding paragraphs of commentary and reference: Jane’s statement that the four-fronted counterpart self persists outside of space and time implies a contradiction, of course — but this situation is one that we, as physical creatures, will in some manner always have to contend with when we encounter certain of Jane’s and Seth’s concepts [including that of the four-fronted counterpart self]. Seth’s own idea of “simultaneous time,” that “all exists at once, yet is not completed,” has run throughout his material since its inception over a decade ago. As he quite humorously commented in the 14th session for January 8, 1964: “… for you have no idea of the difficulties involved in explaining time to someone who must take time to understand the explanation.” Yet Seth’s simultaneous time isn’t an absolute, for, as he also told us in that session: “While I am not affected by time on your plane, I am affected by something resembling time on my plane … To me time can be manipulated, used at leisure and examined. To me your time is a vehicle, one of several by which I can enter your awareness. It is therefore still a reality of some kind to me [my emphasis]. Otherwise I could not utilize it in any way whatsoever.”⁷

Again, we come up against limited ideas of personhood. If I tell you that you are a part of a far greater personhood, then unfortunately you take this to mean that you are less than you are by contrast. I am not referring here to you specifically, Joseph, any more than I am to any reader or class member.

(Pause.) It is difficult to try to explain the creativity of the psyche when, as a species, you have such set ideas about it, but I shall try.

(The next morning Jane told me that she’d been “getting stuff all night again” on “Unknown” Reality. As they have rather often recently, the phenomena had persisted in varying forms through her sleeping and waking states. They had been very creative phenomena, though. After breakfast Jane enthusiastically set to work writing about her new ideas; she plans to use them in Psychic Politics. Here I can barely touch upon a couple of examples of what she experienced throughout the night, and wrote about today. She may revise her copy somewhat before it appears in Politics, but I prefer to quote from her original notes:

(A group of us — Alex, Warren,² and others — had come over to Jane and Rob’s for a casual get-together, and also to talk about that week’s class, which seemed to be one of the “milestone” classes that happen occasionally.³ During the conversation, Alex said that the rise of literacy in the world would spread Seth’s ideas on a scale that had never previously been possible. [...]

According to your intent, your desire, and your beliefs, your ideas intersect with the reality that you know, with physical space and physical time — they become real, in historic terms. [...]

(After Seth had answered questions from some of the others present, Jane came out of trance and we discussed what had been said … eventually getting into the question of whether or not Seth’s ideas were “old” or “new.” [...]

[...] Even as I worked on this note Jane received a most enthusiastic letter of approval from a young woman who had just read Seth Speaks and Volume 1. To paraphrase a few lines: “Why isn’t the whole world reverberating with these fantastic ideas? [...]

[...] The little adventure certainly fits in with Seth’s idea of counterparts, as he introduced it in the 721st session, but it raises a number of questions, too. [...]

[...] The scene was very faint, so much so that it might almost be called more of an idea than an image. [...]

“My own defiance is a peaceful one having to do with ideas. [...]

[...] But I question, at least provisionally, any idea of past or counterpart lives that I lived one hundred percent. [...]