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(With Seth’s help Jane first encountered the idea of Seth Two in the 406th session for April 22, 1968. That important development in her abilities took place four and a half years after she began to speak for Seth, and once it opened up Seth Two came through in the next seven twice-weekly sessions. Most of that material hasn’t been published, although in Chapter 17 of The Seth Material Jane described Seth Two to some extent, including “his, hers, or its” intimate connections with Seth: the subjective pyramid or cone effects she experiences just above her head when contacting Seth Two; and the great energy she feels at such times. In Chapter 17 she quoted Seth Two from sessions 406–7, and from a couple of others that were held later in the year. The excerpts show not only something of Seth’s connections on the “other side” of Jane, but in one case her violent reactions of surprise and panic when she attempted to translate something of Seth Two’s reality in terms of our own camouflage world: She found herself deeply involved in an unexpected experience with “massiveness” — one of the subjects I want to refer to in these preliminary notes. And Seth Two — or our imperfect grasp of what such an energy gestalt can mean or represent — comprises at least one of the sources of the Seth material itself.
(Unlike Seth, Seth Two has never been physical in our terms, and only partially comprehends our reality even while helping to form it. Very quickly, and perhaps simplifying too much, here’s Seth Two from the 407th session, speaking in Jane’s high, distant, deliberate and asexual interpretation of what such an energy gestalt’s “voice” might sound like:)
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(I’ve already cited Jane’s experience, as given in Chapter 17 of The Seth Material, showing that on rare occasions Seth Two and her feelings of massiveness can go together; but she can also be in an altered, massive state of consciousness without having a session, or she can be speaking for Seth. Seth or Seth Two — obviously, when either of those qualities combine with her massive perceptions, then Jane knows a multifaceted trance state. In Volume 1, Seth devoted much of the 681st session to a discussion of probabilities, or, in sum, All That Is, and interwound Jane’s psychic and physical experiences with that material: “The cellular consciousness experiences itself as eternal … Part of Ruburt’s feeling of massiveness2 comes from the mass [life-to-death] experience of the body, existing all at once. Therefore to him the body feels larger.” Beginning at 11:10 in that session, see also Jane’s own comments on her massive responses.
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(Jane’s expressions of long sound and her sensations of massiveness are of course directly related to the multidimensional neurological activity, the “sidepools” of consciousness, that she described in Appendix 4 of Volume 1. Seth also mentioned neurological pulses and/or speeds in various sessions in Volume 1. In the opening delivery for Session 686, for example, see his information on our species’ selection of one “official” series of neurological pulses for physical reality, and, at 12:19 A.M., his remarks on prejudiced perception. Appendix 5 for the same session contains more of Jane’s own material on neurological speeds.
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(The first delivery for this session,4 running until break at 9:47, is deleted here since it contains much personal material. During it Jane spoke for Seth as usual. His last sentence before break was: “I will have something to say concerning Ruburt’s experience the other evening….” With that statement he referred to Monday night’s session, which had been an entirely personal one. Just before its start, Jane had had the self-conscious idea that she should rub between her eyes with a circular motion — “You know, where the third eye5 would be….” In the session itself she came through with material about herself on her “own,” without Seth, but in an altered state of consciousness in which she experienced many vivid subjective images, coupled with strong feelings of massiveness. Some of the images reflected internal states of her own body. I thought her very interesting way of acquiring the information represented another step in the development of her abilities.
(Now to recap the situation leading up to tonight’s [612th] session: At supper time Jane encountered some relaxation effects6 — so much so, in fact, that she had to lay down briefly in the midst of preparing the meal. Then not long before the session was due she became aware to some extent of her pyramid sensation, meaning that Seth Two, or possibly a variation of that personality gestalt, was around. And once again she felt like rubbing her forehead where the mythical third eye would be. Many things, it seemed, were developing at once; we expected that after first break tonight Seth would comment upon them, as well as upon Monday evening’s session. But events didn’t work out that way at all; Seth did not return. Jane carried the rest of the session herself — and a unique one it turned out to be….
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(10:16. Jane’s head was lowered, but I could still see various expressions of puzzlement and inquiry move across her face. “I’ve got that massive feeling again,” she said finally, referring to Monday night’s session. Her massiveness, among other effects, had been very pronounced for her then; she’d felt herself to be truly giant-sized. Now her eyes slit open. Two minutes later she spoke through lips that hardly moved: “Like in my head this enormous body is out through space — all space as we think of it —”
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1. In Appendix 3 of Adventures Jane listed and described the altered states of consciousness that she’s attained so far in her psychic development. She also considered Seth Two in various other parts of Adventures. In Chapter 2, for instance, the Seth Two quotations are cast in the editorial “we,” the guise in which that energy gestalt often comes through: “We are trying to appreciate the nature of your present existence … For you there may seem to be an unbearable loneliness, because you are so used to relating to the warm victory of the flesh, and [here] there is no physical being … Yet beyond and within that isolation is a point of light that is consciousness. It pulses with the power behind all the emotions that you know … This is the warmth that … is born from the very devotion of our isolation … that creates the reality that you know, without itself experiencing it.”
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5. I was surprised to hear Jane’s somewhat embarrassed references to the third eye, since I couldn’t remember her mentioning it before in the sessions. The third eye (sometimes called the “back eye”) is the legendary organ of psychic perception, supposedly located behind the forehead. In occult science it’s been connected with the pineal body, or gland, that mysterious member of the endocrine system is buried deep within the brain, and through the centuries has been considered by many — including the French philosopher and mathematician, René Descartes (1596–1650) — to be the seat of the soul.
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“That particular kind of relaxation seems to repeatedly come upon me over a period of several months or even a year, then to vanish for the same amount of time. I first felt it right after we moved into the new apartment in June 1971, and when it started I knew it was a different kind of feeling. It’s a sort of super-relaxation; almost profound, and mental and physical at once. A completely different thing than just yawning, even though I might be yawning.
“The relaxation involves a curious sense of dropping down inwardly, of going slowly beneath the realities we usually recognize. It’s a smooth transition in which perception is slowed down topwise, but deepened so that usually unperceived stimuli seem to rise from an underside of consciousness and bodily sensation. In that kind of relaxation the body itself perceives differently; that’s what I’m trying to emphasize. Looking at a leaf while in that state, I easily feel myself as part of the leaf, and I think this is a biological as well as a psychic perception. At certain levels the body feels that way itself, although ordinarily we aren’t aware of it. Such a relaxation, then, is almost an extension of biological insight.”
7. From Jane’s notebook: “I was writing poetry one day early in August 1971, when suddenly I mentally heard the oddest sounds — incredibly fast, too quick to follow. Instantly I ‘knew’ that these faster sounds were objects coming into material focus. They slowed down to become physical. I sensed this neurologically, though how that was possible, I don’t know….”
Perhaps this mental event was Jane’s way of “practicing” for the physical one that was to follow a month later, in the 612th session. In my opinion, she offers a most important insight here toward understanding the formation of our mundane physical reality. Besides Jane’s material in appendixes 4 and 5 for Volume 1 of “Unknown” Reality, see Seth’s deliveries on inner sound, light, and electromagnetic patterns in the four sessions (623–26) making up Chapter 5 of Personal Reality.
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In Note 1 for Session 709 I wrote that “Tachyons … are supposed faster-than-light particles that are thought to be possible within Einstein’s special theory of relativity.” (In the session itself Seth makes some intriguing references to related possibilities: “In out-of-body states, consciousness can travel faster than light — often, in fact, instantaneously.” Also see Note 2.) In the 682nd session for Volume 1, while discussing his CU’s, or units of consciousness, Seth told us: “Of course they move faster than light.” Then see notes 3 and 4 for that session.
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Ordinarily we think of mass as meaning the bulk and/or weight of an object. In classical physics the amount of matter in a given object is measured according to its relation to inertia, which in turn is the tendency of matter to keep moving in the same direction, if moving, or to stay at rest if at rest. An object’s mass is arrived at through dividing its weight by the acceleration caused by gravity.
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9. In the physics of elementary particles, time reversal, or symmetry, is a basic concept. I’ll make two references to Volume 1: In Session 682, after 9:47, Seth told us that in our terms his CU’s, or units of consciousness, “can move forward or backward in time. But they can also move into thresholds of time with which you are not familiar.” In Session 702, Seth discussed relationships involving electron spin and the direction, or flow, of time; also see Note 6 for that session.
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Seth, from the 154th session for May 12, 1965: “Basically, the physical body has the potential for perceiving stimuli on a generalized basis. By this I mean that although the eyes are for seeing, the ears for hearing, and so forth, the potentials of the physical body include the capacity to hear, for example, through any given portion of the bodily expanse … Sound, then, can be felt as well as heard, although in such cases you may say that the sound is heard in the depths of the tissues; this, however, being an analogy … Ruburt, in feeling sound, merely experienced it from a different perspective.
“Within your system colors may be perceived as sound (chromesthesia, or ‘colored hearing’). Their connections with human moods are only too apparent. Concerning Joseph’s point about sound: Sound, alone, entering the body, instantaneously changes it … Any perception instantly changes the perceiver. It also changes the thing perceived….”
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Interestingly enough, several very distant quasars have been linked to certain observed faster-than-light effects, thus contradicting current physical theory that nothing can exceed the speed of light. For science this is a very uncomfortable situation that has yet to be resolved. But I’m sure that in scientific terms (quite aside from Seth’s material in Note 1 for the 712th session) there are many discoveries to be made in this area. The faster-than-light effects may be the results of observations that are simply not understood in some as-yet-unexplained way….
In trance or out, Jane likes to “take off” in her own creative ways from concepts like that of the tachyon, or the black hole or the white hole — so in this session she came up with the “dead hole.” Then, from another angle, she explored related ideas in Adventures; see Chapter 19, “Earth Experience as a White Hole,” in which she wrote, “What kind of a structured universe could explain both the inner and exterior worlds? If we consider the universe as a white hole — our exterior universe of sense — we at least have a theoretical framework that reconciles our inner and outer activity, our physical and spiritual or psychic experience; and the apparent dilemma between a simultaneous present in which all events happen at once, and our daily experience in which we seem to progress through time from birth to death.”
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