“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

“Everything is conscious, of course. Atoms and molecules, the whole thing. The massive part is the core. This core is, I believe, not discovered yet [by physicists], and it’s so slow to us that no motion is apparent. I don’t know whether this is an atom or not. You can call it a dead hole” (Pause.) “Its motion in our terms is so slow as not to be observable, but in terms of time it’s a backward motion.”⁹

(Pause at 10:50.) “… [this core is] always surrounded by these faster-than-light particles. This is a structure … but it does cause a pulling-in or wrinkling effect where it appears. There are many of these, I think, in our galaxy as well as others. Nothing can be drawn through the dead hole, though, as things can be drawn through the black hole, because of [the dead hole’s] literally impenetrable mass. Now as with atoms alone, and all other such structures, these also exist as sound.¹⁰ Black holes and white holes do also.¹¹ The sounds are actually characteristics that act as cohesivies, characteristics automatically given off. The slower center portions of the dead holes themselves move backward into beginnings becoming heavier and heavier.”

(11:00.) “In a way of speaking you could say these centers fall through space, but they really fall through the space of themselves. (Jane shook her head, her eyes closed.) As they fall backward through themselves — I’m getting this — I don’t know how to say it — the faster-than-light particles collapse in on top. The dead hole seems to swallow itself, with the real fast particles like a lid that gradually diminishes … From our point of view the hole is closed, say, once the faster-than-light particles follow the slower core backward into beginnings.”

(11:05.) “As the core goes backward — in quotes — ‘in time,’ however, it begins to accelerate. I don’t know how to put this. When it emerges in another universe, the faster-than-light particles have slowed down, and the core becomes faster than light. The dead hole is repeated in microscopic size — that’s small, isn’t it? Before the emergence of the atom … oh, dear … as an analogy, you could say that the dead hole we’ve been talking about emerges as an atom in another universe. But it’s the stage before the appearance, or the stage from which an atom comes.

“Speaking of the dead hole in a galaxy, say ours, it emerges in what would be to us an atom of fantastic size, but the same thing happens on a different scale as far as the creation of matter is concerned within our own system.”¹²

(11:12.) “As mentioned, sound is connected here also, and each one of these phenomena has consciousness that does express itself, and is aware of the stages through which it passes. In certain terms, dead holes connect past and present; also future. In practical terms, they have to do with the seeming permanence of an object. They are the invisible portions of the atom. There are giant-sized atoms, as well as the ones you’re familiar with.”

(11:17.) “I — I know there’s more there … I want to find out more. I don’t get their [the ‘consciousnesses’ behind tonight’s material] purpose. (Jane looked tired and disheveled now, and I suggested she end the session. She sat with her eyes closed. She had trouble enunciating the next sentence, and had to repeat it:) Dead holes turn into live holes … where the motion and impetus, in your terms, would be toward the future … I can’t get any more…. (Once again I urged her to quit.) I’m almost finished. In this case, the core appears as matter-to-be. I guess I’ll stop. I can’t follow it. This whole thing has to do with those voice effects earlier….”

11. According to modern cosmology, a black hole consists of the remains of a very massive star (one much larger than our own sun, for example) that’s suffered complete gravitational collapse after the death of its nuclear fires. Such an object is very small and unimaginably dense; within it, time and space are interchangeable. It’s also quite invisible, because its surface gravity is so enormous that not even light can escape from it. (Yet, in Volume 1, see the comments in Note 4 for Session 688, on the possibility of light radiation from the “event horizon” of the black hole.) So far just two black holes have been tentatively located, although many of them are believed to exist.

Since the matter surrounding a black hole would also be drawn into it, some astrophysicists have suggested that this might emerge into another universe through its opposite — a white hole — where it would be seen as an extremely brilliant quasar, or quasi-stellar radio source. So there would be an exchange of matter-energy between universes or realities.

In trance or out, Jane likes to “take off” in her own creative ways from concepts like that of the tachyon, or the black hole or the white hole — so in this session she came up with the “dead hole.” Then, from another angle, she explored related ideas in Adventures; see Chapter 19, “Earth Experience as a White Hole,” in which she wrote, “What kind of a structured universe could explain both the inner and exterior worlds? If we consider the universe as a white hole — our exterior universe of sense — we at least have a theoretical framework that reconciles our inner and outer activity, our physical and spiritual or psychic experience; and the apparent dilemma between a simultaneous present in which all events happen at once, and our daily experience in which we seem to progress through time from birth to death.”

In closing: See the 593rd session in the Appendix of Seth Speaks for Seth’s material on black holes, white holes, and coordination points: “A black hole is a white hole turned inside out … The holes, therefore, or coordination points [points of double reality, or where realities merge], are actually great accelerators that reenergize energy itself.” In the 688th session for Volume 1, Seth presents an analogy in which his basic units of consciousness, or CU’s, operate as minute but very powerful black holes and white holes.

12. A note added over a year later: For some time I’ve intuitively felt connections between Jane’s material in this paragraph and ideas we first read about some six months after this 612th session was held in September 1972: that for various reasons (having to do with gravitational waves, mass, et cetera) many galaxies, including our own, could have been formed out of matter accumulating around black holes at their centers.