“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Last Tuesday afternoon, in our living room, Jane and I participated in a filmed television interview that is to be aired by a New York City station. The program’s host and his cameraman stayed to film Jane’s ESP class that night. Seth came through during class, as he often does, and was at his jovial — and serious — best. Jane also sang in her trance language, Sumari.

(This will be the first time Seth has appeared on television since we did some promotional work for The Seth Material after its publication in 1970. At that time Jane spoke for Seth on two occasions from cities in the East. Reactions were excellent; she still receives an occasional call or letter about one of those shows in particular. I might add that since Seth launched “Unknown” Reality in February of this year, Jane and I have fulfilled another television commitment, and that she was the subject of a lengthy radio interview. But the pressures of work, plus our own conservative attitudes about personal publicity, have led us to pass by other such opportunities.

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

(I thought it very interesting that Seth had talked about subatomic waves and particles in the last paragraph of his delivery tonight. Such ideas involve the physicists’ ongoing conception of the duality of nature. For instance: Is light made up of waves or particles? A contemporary accommodation, called complementarity, leads experimenters to accept results that show either aspect to be true. As noted in the last session, Jane had attempted to read Einstein’s book on his theories of relativity earlier that day. We had briefly discussed Einstein’s work and some allied subjects before tonight’s session, but I hadn’t asked her to give material on physics through Seth.⁵ In her own way, Jane is quite interested in the field, however, and has done a little work in it with scientists. We may have more to say about those efforts later in “Unknown” Reality.

(Now, however, we had time to just touch upon the data involving electrons when Jane told me that she was suddenly aware of more information on the same subject. Seth was ready. “I’ll do the best I can with this,” she said, as she took off her glasses. Resume at 10:22.)

(10:34. The ringing persisted for almost two minutes I found the situation very irritating — especially since I’d forgotten to turn off the telephone’s bell before the session. If there was one time when we didn’t need an interruption, I thought, it was while Jane was dealing with the present kind of material. Yet she continued to speak for Seth:)

(Using conventional reincarnational terms, I half jokingly asked Jane if she’d ever been a dream-art scientist, say, or a mental physicist. She said she didn’t know. [We hardly ever talk about whatever personal involvement either of us might have had with reincarnation, incidentally, regardless of whether any such lives would be based upon Seth’s ideas of simultaneous time and probabilities, or upon time as a series of successive moments.] Jane did know that the rest of the session would be for her, though. She was right; Seth came through at 10:55, then said good night at 11:30 P.M.

(A note: Jane’s very rich and vivid dream series is still underway, and she continues to keep detailed records. At times the paperwork involved keeps her busy for a couple of hours a day. She recorded five dreams last night, for instance. I last mentioned her recent dreams in Appendix 11, for Session 698. That appendix contains excerpts from The Wonderworks — material which Jane wrote last month while in an altered state of consciousness, and which was at least partly inspired by her dream series. In some of the deleted portions of these sessions, Seth has rather extensively discussed Jane’s dream work and related activity. He did so again tonight. It’s important to note here that Jane’s dream connected experiences include some new, and very exciting, psychic developments for her.)

1. Once again (as in Note 7 for the last session), I quote Seth from the 45th session: “Any investigation of the basic inner universe, which is the only real universe, must be done as much as possible from a point outside your own distortions … To get outside your own universe, you must travel inward … Your so-called scientific, so-called objective experiments can continue for an eternity, but they will only probe further and further with camouflage [physical] instruments into a camouflage universe … The subconscious, it is true, has elements of its own distortions, but these are easier to escape than the tons of distortive camouflage atmosphere that weigh your scientific experiments down.”

(See Note 3 for Appendix 11, concerning Seth’s use of “camouflage” in the early sessions.)

2. Seth’s material about technology and science leading to inner realities reminds me of two related examples that I’ve become aware of recently through my own reading. The first one involves a more intimate inner reality than the second, yet both pose interesting questions. Each reader can probably give similar illustrations. (However, as I wrote in Appendix 1, “I’m not interested in knocking our technology, but in pointing out coexisting inner factors that I’m sure are just as important.”)

My first example concerns the development of biofeedback machines in the 1960’s. With one of these devices the individual was to learn to control, when necessary, his or her own blood pressure, or any of certain other involuntary body functions. Doubtlessly such self monitoring is an example of the “loving technology” that Seth mentioned in his final delivery for the last Session; yet we now understand that the early claims for biofeedback were considerably exaggerated. Within a more reasonable context the technique will take its place in our medical systems, but in each case what we learn will surely point up the need to understand our individual inner realities; i.e., what caused the high blood pressure, or whatever, in the first place?

See Chapter 15 of Seth Speaks for Seth’s material on the art and technology of the ancient civilization of Lumina (as well as his references to those that came before and after it). Even now, he tells us, the Lumanians’ attributes are incorporated in our own heritage.

Seth discusses some “species of consciousness,” starting at 11:08 in Session 692, Volume 1.

4. In the 40th session for April 1, 1964, Seth had something to say about the challenges space travel will present to our own civilization: “… you are severely hampered as far as space travel is concerned, by the time elements involved … In your terms it will simply take you too long to get where you want to go. Scientists will begin to look for easier methods. They are even now being forced to consider the possibilities of telepathy as a means of communication, and they will be forced further and further along these lines.

5. In the last session see the material, with notes 1 and 7, on Einstein, as well as Note 5; in the 684th session the material on the multidimensional activities and fluctuations of Seth’s CU’s (or units of consciousness), electrons, and other such phenomena; and in the 681st session the material, with Note 7 especially, on science, probable atoms, and the basic unpredictability behind all systems of reality. In the same session Seth also comments on Jane’s vocabulary, as he does after break tonight.

6. Seth, in the 681st session: “Atoms can move in more directions than one at once.” In Note 7 for that session I wrote that as an artist my intuitional reaction to that statement was to associate the multidirectional ability of the atom with Seth’s notions of simultaneous time and probabilities. Since electrons are the particles or processes moving about the nucleus of the atom, I now make the same association for them. Thus, according to Seth, we have a most complicated and profound dance of units or essences — behavior not really amenable to translation in words.

Time reversal or particle symmetry, the equivalence of space and time, is a tenet of relativistic physics and quantum theory. In the material I have on file on electron spin itself, though, I haven’t found any discussion of Seth’s ideas of: (a) a reversed electron spin and a consequent time reversal, or (b) electrons spinning in many directions at once (even if we could grasp such a situation). Such concepts in association with electron spin may be dealt with in the literature of physics, but are unfamiliar to me or outside my limited understanding. I’m sure also that in ordinary terms Jane knows nothing of them.

Instead, I’d say that Seth’s material after break grew out of her own intuitive, mystical understanding that space and time are interwound.