“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(One-minute pause at 8:52.) I did want to make some comments about the Sinful Self in general, and how it is perceived and assimilated in say, Castaneda’s work and in the belief structure of Kubler-Ross.

Both represent systems of belief quite different from our own material in many respects. It is important to realize that in usual terms even great visions need not agree with each other. For they are each viewing experience from a highly concentrated yet uniquely individual standpoint. They each see “reality” from a different angle, and thus create a different view.

It is of vital importance, however, for overall clarification that a belief system recognizes itself as such. Otherwise it becomes another closed system of thought, bathed in absolutism, and doomed to the weightiness of dogma.

The Castaneda system accepts the power of evil, for example (long pause), presenting a framework in which those people who do accept such power can confront it, along with a system of exercises and beliefs meant to minimize evil’s effects. In a fashion that particular approach, for all of its reliance upon “sorcery,” is not actually true to the magical approach at all, because it insists so fervently upon the impediments that stand in man’s way, and stresses the importance of rituals and methods, and the almost superhuman effort that is required (pause) in order to meet the “magical ends.”

(9:13.) Kubler-Ross does not believe as deeply in the existence of evil forces, but is convinced of the importance and necessity of suffering in one way or another as an important means of achieving a good end. (Long pause.) Because your world is built around a certain charged acceptance of beliefs so thoroughly, it usually seems as if reality as you perceive it is the one that must be inevitably perceived, while all others have the status of hallucinatory visions at the very best.

The spirit guides are perceptions of other kinds of psychological and psychic activity. In some cases your station of reality automatically transforms them to fit the patterns of your beliefs. They can be dealt with at that level, but that level is to some extent now a superficial one relatively speaking. Kubler-Ross’s system is still highly tinged by beliefs in the prominent necessity not just in the existence of suffering, but that it must for all of its stress upon hope (long pause) end up to a large degree in stressing certain aspects of suffering and martyrdom.

Like most of your allies, it is taken for granted that nuclear plants will ultimately be used in the manufacture of bombs that will ultimately certainly be used in a destructive fashion. At that level, therefore, Begin destroys a nuclear faculty before its damage can be done. (Long pause.) God helps those who help themselves, may I say sardonically, is the belief behind such actions.