“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(One-minute pause at 8:52.) I did want to make some comments about the Sinful Self in general, and how it is perceived and assimilated in say, Castaneda’s work and in the belief structure of Kubler-Ross.

The Castaneda system accepts the power of evil, for example (long pause), presenting a framework in which those people who do accept such power can confront it, along with a system of exercises and beliefs meant to minimize evil’s effects. In a fashion that particular approach, for all of its reliance upon “sorcery,” is not actually true to the magical approach at all, because it insists so fervently upon the impediments that stand in man’s way, and stresses the importance of rituals and methods, and the almost superhuman effort that is required (pause) in order to meet the “magical ends.”

(Long pause.) Spontaneity is not trusted, and left alone the spontaneous self is seen as slothful, given to the pursuit of meaningless pleasure. To some extent the spontaneous self and the Sinful Self wear the same mask or bear the same face. It goes without saying that the framework is male-oriented —but even then the male is really no adequate male unless he becomes a warrior, and pushes himself to perform against the powers of darkness, on the one hand, and against sloth on the other.

(9:13.) Kubler-Ross does not believe as deeply in the existence of evil forces, but is convinced of the importance and necessity of suffering in one way or another as an important means of achieving a good end. (Long pause.) Because your world is built around a certain charged acceptance of beliefs so thoroughly, it usually seems as if reality as you perceive it is the one that must be inevitably perceived, while all others have the status of hallucinatory visions at the very best.

The spirit guides are perceptions of other kinds of psychological and psychic activity. In some cases your station of reality automatically transforms them to fit the patterns of your beliefs. They can be dealt with at that level, but that level is to some extent now a superficial one relatively speaking. Kubler-Ross’s system is still highly tinged by beliefs in the prominent necessity not just in the existence of suffering, but that it must for all of its stress upon hope (long pause) end up to a large degree in stressing certain aspects of suffering and martyrdom.

(9:27.) Visions of an entirely different nature, seemingly saying different things, can still be highly legitimate visions, leading in fact by different routes toward other larger reconciliations. (Long pause.) It will be useful if Ruburt remembers this when he views other systems of reality. You make your own reality in “a thousand times.” You put together psychological events in various ways. You merge what is seemingly fiction or fantasy with what is seemingly factual. From those elements you form your picture of the world.

Like most of your allies, it is taken for granted that nuclear plants will ultimately be used in the manufacture of bombs that will ultimately certainly be used in a destructive fashion. At that level, therefore, Begin destroys a nuclear faculty before its damage can be done. (Long pause.) God helps those who help themselves, may I say sardonically, is the belief behind such actions.