“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Jane wanted Seth to discuss her own progress—which continues, if too slowly for her. Tonight, using the typing table as a “walker,” she walked the fastest yet during her exercise period with it. A good sign.

(We also speculated that Seth might refer to what may be called the “Jonestown Affair,” or something like it. This had erupted in a mass suicide, involving over 400 Americans, in the community of Jonestown in what was formerly British Guyana, in South America. A US congressman was also murdered, along with media network people, etc. The sect, called the People’s Temple, had been created by Jim Jones, a charismatic fundamentalist who had eventually been hounded out of the U.S. for many reasons, to then set up his town for his devoted religious followers in Guyana. The whole thing had a weird unbelievability about it, as Jane and I watched the TV reports and read—and saved – the newspaper accounts.

(I haven’t started any new creative ventures yet, although I’ve done considerable work filing, organizing records, etc., to set the stage for whatever develops. I will soon be painting again. We expect to receive the copyedited Volume 2 of “Unknown” Reality by December 7, and this is to keep us occupied until Christmas. At least, Tam doesn’t want us putting it in the mail until after the Christmas rush is over.)

He was, of course, a despot, and he did indeed set up his own alienated kingdom. Those that followed him pretended to themselves not to know what they were doing. You make your own lessons, so that these mass suicides and murders are an objective culmination, on those peoples’ part, of other, lesser psychological suicides committed on the part of millions who abdicate their personal responsibility in such a way.

(9:20.) Since so many were involved, and since the temple people were their own community, then the symbolism also involves nations. Around the area there was a land of law, so that the situation was contained, and the temple people were aliens in that land. There are international implications, however.

The fact that these were Americans is indeed a shock, and a shock that will make religious Americans question the nature of their own beliefs.

The individual either exists for the sake of the society, or the society exists for the sake of the individual. So it seems. Either road, however, brings its own difficulties. An enlightened position would be somewhat different, for a reasonably free individual will automatically want to aid his fellow man, and you will have a society of individuals fully functioning, and that would mean you would have fully functioning social organizations.

(9:41 PM. Seth’s “quickie” sounds very interesting. I dare say that Jane and I could come up with some questions of our own, too.