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(The sketch of Nebene is rather successful and would make a good painting. Most interesting is the pendant I showed him wearing; I did a couple of enlarged sketches of this feature, noting that I didn’t understand its meaning or origin. I was quite surprised to find two days later, in the New York Times for September 12, a photograph that contained strong resemblances to my drawing of Nebene’s pendant: an Egyptian pendant possibly dating from around the time of King Tutankhamen, circa 1355 BC. It seems that currently Egyptian-motif jewelry is the rage in New York City, at least. My own notes contain a detailed chronology of events between my drawing, when we were given the newspaper containing the photo in question, etc. I asked that Seth possibly comment tonight. It seemed that the similarity between the Egyptian piece shown and my own drawing was a bit too coincidental. Nor do we know that much about the circumstances of the Nebene life to begin with. I thought it interesting that Nebene’s land, Jerusalem, say, was geographically next door to Egypt, and not great in physical distance, as far as miles go.

Several times this week, Ruburt imagined the two of you on a trip to Florida, with a trailer by the ocean; both of you working, of course, but quite happily. He began by thinking in practical terms in Framework 1: you could—could—do it now, though it would be difficult; but you could go to Florida. If you had to you could even fix it so Ruburt could eat mostly in the car, or in a van. So his thoughts went.

A good deal of the time he has been writing well, operating in Framework 2. Whenever you operate in Framework 2 in any area, to some extent you enrich other areas of your life. He was excited last evening about Seven, and in that period of physical time he forgot his problems, and he dealt with the challenge of the book in the same way that he can learn to handle the physical situation.

In Framework 2 in your terms, time is foreshortened, and work is done there in a flash, so to speak. Some time may be involved physically for the materialization, but in usual terms the foreshortening effect can be quite startling, for time is affected and used in an entirely different fashion. The ideas for Aspects, Politics, and the entire library experience germinated one evening in a flash of inspiration just before the flood (in June 1972).

The physical time was nothing—a few hours—and physical time had to pass for the writing of the books. Yet those books will also influence future time in an important fashion. They represent concentrated experience in which Ruburt threw aside “for a time” the known beliefs of Framework 1, its laws and regulations.

Even Chestnut Beads, written so long ago, published in an obscure-enough—forgive me (humorously)—pulp magazine, reaches out into time, and affects a woman’s movement that then did not exist in your terms: Ruburt’s imaginative act in writing Chestnut Beads was that concentrated.

They show how you use your time, and imply what has come from the past, and what is projected into the future. They represent the state of your mind.

What you do in those situations is in a way concentrated. It does things to time because of your intents and because of the peculiar nature of Framework 2. Such physical areas are charged in that regard because the mental areas connected with them are. In a manner of speaking they are hypnotic containers, emphasizing what you want emphasized, and cutting off data that do not apply, or that is contradictory. You direct yourselves to concentrate in a particular fashion.

All of this happens quite automatically, yet it is the result of your conscious decisions along the way. Hypnosis then involves concentrated stimulus toward action of a certain kind. Everyone uses it, regardless of the terms. It works well because at the time impediments are intentionally cut to a minimum, and the details involved that are necessary are part of an overall plan.

I do not want a concentration upon detail, however. He is indeed overall taller. His eyes are improving. His interest and improvement in the writing area will also help his general condition, for many reasons. It is perfectly natural, however, for him not to be happy at certain times, temporarily. When he feels that way he should tell you. That is different from projecting negatively into the future. I would like, however, some hypnosis—of the kind we have been speaking of—in the near future. This involves concentrated work, again, that foreshortens time.

Give us a moment.... I am making the recommendations, for I know what is most effective, but I am not certain of your equipment. At one time, however, he made his own tape recording, with his voice giving himself suggestions in the background of a record, and he played that while he was writing.

It comes naturally to him, and even done in Framework 1’s limited manner, it is beneficial. It would even help if the two of you discussed such a trip as a definite possibility, but without any definite time period involved. Work done in Framework 2, however, is out of all proportion to the effort expended. That is why the taped suggestions are important. An alternative could involve two definite periods of self-suggestion a week, prepared for ahead of time, with a specific physical area chosen in the same way that you choose certain areas for your writing or painting.

Ruburt would either read himself suggestions that he had thoughtfully written out earlier, or listen to a cassette that he had made. Another alternative is for you to give the suggestions in the role of hypnotist. Any of these methods, however, involve little effort, with important concentrated results, for you are taking time aside in the same way that I explained earlier you both do in the areas of your work. This involves accelerated suggestion.

Now: Nebene traveled extensively in early years. He did visit Egypt, and made tours to various esoteric communities. (Long pause.) He became disenchanted at a young age with the many conflicting schools of truth, so when he found what he finally settled upon, he would brook no interference. When you operate, practically speaking, in terms of Framework 2, you have a stronger impact upon time and reality. You are more effective in that regard. Nebene and you influence each other because you operate in Framework 2 in the work areas of your lives. You become closer, say, for in physical terms of time there is a foreshortening. Time, then, can be lengthened or shortened, or made to disappear entirely.

The events of time in such a case from the outside might seem to change drastically, while those inside our time structures would not notice any change, in a Framework 1 level. Your historical actuality and Nebene’s would never collide. On that level no change occurs, but the foreshortening of time can allow you and Nebene to interact if you want to, or if he does, so that images, ideas, and other interchanges can occur in a way that does not dislodge or disarray a moment of your physical time, or his.

Now with you and Nebene the same occurs in time—a channel opens up as surely, through which images, ideas, and interchanges can occur. It is interesting that you picked up an older Nebene than earlier, for the elder Nebene, if disillusioned, was also more open than earlier, and more gentle of disposition.

In Framework 2 the mind affects the physical brain in a more complete and effective manner than usual, and can spark images, thoughts, or correlations that exist in a context outside of the time that is happening in Framework 1. Time happens at a certain regulated rate, then, obviously, in Framework 1. A certain amount of time is needed there to do a certain amount of work, and according to scientific dictates a specific amount of effort is required to perform different kinds of work.

Framework 1, to some extent or another, however, is always influenced by Framework 2. There, the same correlations do not apply between the effort expended and the work performed, or the time required for such procedures. Very little effort, there, comparatively speaking, has an effect here in Framework 1—that is, a small amount of effort in Framework 2 can result in extraordinary work done in Framework 2, and with a foreshortened time effect.

His pursuit of truth led his mind outward through time. You use space. I use time. Time, again, can be lengthened, shortened. You can move sidewards in it, for example, as you do in space. These frameworks, one way or another, always involve alterations in time, even as Ruburt’s James and Cézanne books from the library involve information not usually available in Framework 1’s time sequence.

I will tell you what I can of what you want to know about Nebene’s times, for example, but you can also obtain from him, if you understand tonight’s material, information of that nature, and “firsthand” data about the various sects he visited. I suggest that for your enjoyment and education. He also obtained some information about you, you realize, for the channel is open. You would not get such information unless both of you consented.

Your drawing of the jewelry does represent a piece of jewelry that Nebene wore all of the time. The symbols were then ancient in origin, representing the search for truth and the godhead, but it was an unorthodox piece for him to wear.

(A note: When Seth remarked about the pendant Nebene wore being an unorthodox procedure for those times, it reminded me that I’d had the same thought while doing the drawing. However, I forgot to write it down in my notes, and didn’t mention it to Jane.