“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(We had no questions for Seth in particular, hoping that he would just continue where he’d left off last session. Jane felt there was much more to come on Frameworks 1 and 2, etc.)

Before, earlier, there was a third concern—a financial one, but he did not come across those journals this evening. The two main concerns then instantly caught his attention. He did not see, however, the difference in his approach to those concerns—and in that difference lies the difference in results.

Oftentimes he was not sure what his next book would be, but overall he never doubted there would be a next book. He did not imagine impediments that might rise to prevent a next book being written—nor did he doubt his ability to write one, or any number of books. At times he might think of writing in one area or another, but his imagination did not set up barriers: it was always receptive to new ideas, casting about for new experiences, consciously involved in the process of creativity.

You changed your approaches indirectly, and Ruburt was always stronger in the financial regard than you, as far as his beliefs that artistic creations could bring financial rewards. You believed that commercial art could give financial results, but not necessarily good writing, or good art.

It did not seem particularly practical to stop worrying about money. It could even have appeared quite impractical. Yet Ruburt began to feel more and more that you and he would have whatever money was needed for any of your wants or desires.

In Ruburt’s dream last night, he was dancing. His physical body carries that memory. The actual muscles involved were rehearsing. The dream in Framework 2 is as much a definite plan for a normally walking body as any Oversoul Seven that did result in the book. The original Seven did come from a dream, from a drama occurring in Framework 2—but there were no negative beliefs to block it, no habits of erecting impediments. Other dreams of Ruburt’s health did not materialize because their creativity was blocked by an insistence upon following, in that regard, the most limiting of Framework 1’s premises.

(10:10.) There is no difference between the idea of a book and the idea of a normally walking body. It is simply that in one area Ruburt, and you secondarily, have insisted upon relying upon the conventional levels of existence. Therefore, your confidence was undermined.

In between, Frank’s help was quite necessary. His assurances were important, and quite valid. They helped Ruburt considerably. To some extent, however, they limited improvement in that area. Ruburt must now take the lead. Frank’s knowledge can still be helpful, but it should not be allowed, now, to curtail improvements, or limit them, by conventional knowledge of what muscles and joints can or cannot do, or by projecting any particular procedure—as, for example, Ruburt will do this or that, before this or that.

So in our change of method, have him try as best he can to forget such details. The morning shower, in its way, was a breakthrough, for several years of conditioning simply disappeared—an issue I notice you did note.

By way of comment, and in reference to this discussion only, without taking other issues into consideration, your own parents for example operated largely in Framework 1 for their entire lives. In portions of our work and your own, you have sometimes operated in Framework 3. Ruburt’s initial Idea Construction experience momentarily propelled him into Framework 4, where indeed enough energy, creativity, and power was generated to change his life beneficially, and open his mind to higher levels of understanding and knowledge.

The actual time involved in that experience was minute. In a way—underlined twice—that kind of time use represents the kind of threshold I use in my communications in sessions. If you followed Framework 1’s beliefs, the sessions would never have begun.

(Pause.) I am trying to think of an analogy.... That experience of Ruburt’s in time terms would be like a concentrated time pill: there are pills you take that are released in timed sequences. So everything I am saying, in a manner of speaking, was made possible in that experience. In the time framework of Framework 1, the time period could not contain such accelerated mental or psychic motion, so it appears in your terms of time during our continuous session. My personality could not be “defined” or contained within that initial experience either—so you see, strung out through the years, what in other terms I “said,” or “was,” at the time of Ruburt’s idea construction experience.

Probabilities are valid time terminals. Ruburt’s accelerated state at that “time” led him to a threshold of experience that could be translated into Framework 1, but could not be sustained here in terms of ordinary behavior. The bridge personality was a psychological result, appearing in time, yet apart from it. Framework 2, however, is quite familiar to you, as stated, in your creative work, and most other areas of your lives, including your own physical experience of your body.

(11:26 PM. I hadn’t actually asked any questions of Seth; his material after break came through following my joking remark that I was half afraid to ask any, my reaction stemming from his discussion in the last deleted session, regarding Jane’s dislike of details, etc.

(At break tonight I’d explained to Jane that I still thought the 14th session contained some excellent material on Seth’s awareness of “something resembling time” to him—and that it was “still a reality of some kind” to him. I’m in the process of quoting passages from the 14th session, held in January, 1964, in Appendix 18, as I write it for Volume 2 of “Unknown” Reality.

(Seth’s material offers some new insights, I think, as I type this session, concerning his reality. He may be saying that our entire experience with him was encapsulated in Jane’s experience with Idea Construction.)