“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(10:54.) Now. Give us a moment.... Ruburt wants this information, but we will begin slowly.

Carol left the physical class (early), but still participated at that other level of reality in the entire proceeding. Pat (Arnold), who has not attended lately, psychically is present. In that dimension therefore Ruburt was aware of both presences. He was perceiving the greater dimensions of the physical class event. In those terms Pat, who did not attend the physical class, attended a probable one; and Carol, who was not present for the end of the official class, was a participant in the probable one.

To Ruburt’s experience the classes seemed separate, one real and the other probable. But these simply represented the greater, usually unperceived, dimensions of any class event (or of any perceived event).

To Ruburt it seemed that the lights switched off and on. This represented the switching off and on of his consciousness as it perceived usually restricted perceptions, then lost them.

Now: the student, Larry Carp, does have extraordinary energy, erratically and explosively used. He does not know how to use it as yet, so it appears not as a steady but as a rambunctious and sometimes distracting quality. He has not learned how to ride it, for example. Ruburt recognizes this. Ruburt was then using Larry’s, knowing that to some degree it would pierce both levels, and he hoped to compare what Larry said in each reality.

Many of the students are embarrassed by Larry’s behavior, and his piercing laugh, but Ruburt recognizes the energy involved. Several things were operating. Ruburt was out-of-body, as he knows, and in that state he was perceiving the greater dimensions of the class event, and trying to correlate this with ordinary class perception. You were also out-of-body, but do not recall the situation.

Carol was downhearted, and wanted to give herself a present. Unconsciously she chose the precise “old” class session, dealing with probabilities, and containing her description, last June, of an out-of-body episode in which she did indeed visit a probable class. That was on her mind as she fell asleep. She visited here, then, out-of-body, and was perceived by Ruburt, who was in an out-of-body state himself. Carol did not come into the room, however, but lingered with her sister (Pat) in the hall.

As Ruburt looked out the window he was using all of his abilities, but he could not physically keep both events going at one time, or rather his awareness could not contain all of the perceptive information.

Then he realized that his body was sleeping. He wanted to “awaken” and record the experience, so he had the radio blare until [it] waked him. There is more, involving the doctor and the monkey. The monkey was not free, but on a leash —the psyche’s interpretation, in other terms, of material involving the class discussion about inoculations. The monkey was not free because it had been inoculated with diseased tissue, yet the doctor hoped to keep the disease in control, or leashed, through measured inoculations. Ruburt saw a real doctor and a real monkey because he wanted to bring home the point that living animals were then involved who were then diseased, and that real men conducted the experiments.

(11:26.) Very briefly, a few pertinent remarks to Ruburt.

Ruburt’s own late insights are correct. He became frightened that even though he changed beliefs and intentions, that he had gone too far, so that the body could not right itself—that despite desires for freedom, the legs simply could not straighten.

And this is important. Again, to some degree, you are each hypnotized by effects. It is highly important that Ruburt realize that his body can perform naturally. It will not automatically perform with utter ease. Time is involved. In that framework however his legs will now support his weight. The muscles can relax and lengthen. He can get up and down far easier physically. This is now possible—but he has not believed it, and to a lesser extent you have not.