“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now: Ruburt had a different kind of experience lately. (Yesterday afternoon, Sunday, August 10, 1975.) In a state between usual waking or sleeping he found himself giving a session such as this one, where earlier he had only heard my words in his head.

Now: in the first episode mentioned the experience was the same, only more vividly experienced since the focus personality was not fully awake and did not have immediate sense data to handle. There, Ruburt was inside the image that he had projected. His main consciousness was merged with mine in the session format; while in the waking experience his consciousness was in the normal image, which sensed the projected one. In the first experience then Ruburt projected an image outward and his consciousness entered it, then he had a session by the same mechanics we always use. The unprojected portion of him listened. He wanted to retain what was said, and sought for methods. He tried to have you take notes, but realized the physical incongruities. He became confused, tried to take notes himself as the listening image, and realized those notes would not exist physically either.

I was saying in his first episode: “Ask and you shall receive, ask halfheartedly and you shall receive in exactly that measure,” and I was looking at you exactly as I am now. Ask and you shall receive. This applies in every area of experience. When you ask you expect an answer, or at least a reply of a kind. If you ask on the one hand and then say “I do not want to know” on the other, the results will be minimal. Ruburt was asking for flexibility but he did not fully want it, and so halfhearted questions bring halfhearted answers. Lately he asked wholeheartedly, and there will be a wholehearted answer and reply—from the psyche itself, which understands its parts. There is a wisdom and an understanding operating, a beautiful give-and-take in life between the intensity of a desire and its fulfillment—an underlying exquisite sanity. While symptoms of any kind serve a purpose they are considered legitimate. The psyche will not remove them until the intensity of desire for freedom rises high enough to meet those purposes in other ways.

(Long pause at 9:52.) It might seem in the short run that drugs and medicines are a great value—and they can indeed be extremely helpful. Money applied liberally, however, to a poverty-stricken group of people can increase their problems if the basic social and individual causes are not resolved. The poverty “rightly or wrongly” has been chosen for a reason. Ruburt’s early poverty was rich. Now I am not advocating poverty per se, but you must look at all such matters with a different kind of vision.

His understanding had to grow to match, and so did yours. This is the session, then, that I was giving him (yesterday). In daily life this means that he finally understands that his negative feelings were methods that he chose to automatically keep the body in a certain condition. He can recognize, but not as before be engulfed by them. Your active participation now means just what it means. You did not give it fully before because you were as unsure as he was. You live in a joint reality. Your two purposes now merge, and so you will get results.