“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Shortly after I became aware, Jane began to do the dishes. The geography of our kitchen in apartment four is such that noise can evidently seep through a closet wall in the bedroom and so is quite easily heard. Jane made noise handling the dishes, I heard the water run, etc. In addition she turned on her radio. Even though she kept it on low volume, I heard it. I told myself these things would not distract me. I lay without moving a muscle, trying to encourage further developments without straining. The floating-free sensation continued, but I wasn’t able to develop it further.

(I nearly always use suggestions re projection when I lay down. I believe my tiredness tonight helped the state. Now I sent Jane messages that she would leave me undistracted, but nothing developed. The feeling lasted for well over a minute, I would estimate; finally it began to diminish or fade out, and I fell asleep again. Upon writing this, I now recall that immediately upon lying down I drifted into a rather complete, if brief, dreaming state—but I cannot recall the dream. But I went from the dream into the projection. RFB.

(Peculiarly, I had no feeling of being detached from my physical body—that is, I didn’t feel I was bodiless, hovering above it: I had taken the bed up with me, you see. I felt the bed and I were several feet above the floor. I wanted to try turning over astrally, and I wanted to try reaching up toward the ceiling astrally, to see if I could touch it. I didn’t move at all, though, because of the noise from the kitchen. I managed to hold the state while considering the kitchen interference, but was concerned lest any attempt at movement on my part would break the spell entirely.

(By coincidence—?—Seth’s book has just come back to us from Prentice-Hall for us to go over the copy editor’s suggestions before it is set in galleys, which we will see in April. But we haven’t had time to reread the manuscript.)

Drawings of some of these exist in primitive Sumerian cave renditions, but the drawings are misinterpreted, the instrument is taken for another. No one knows how to use the instruments. There are a few in existence, in your terms.

I do not necessarily mean that they are consciously aware of their affiliation. This is an individual matter. They are often inventors, always then involved with the initiation of new ideas or discoveries. All of this follows inner patterns that are specifically human in your terms. Humanity therefore has its own characteristics, and no (in quotes) “outside influence” can go counter to these, but must work with them.

The problem comes when you try to categorize consciousness or being. The out-of-body state, in greater terms, is a far more natural state than in the body. You adopt and make a body. You do this now without knowing that you do so, but a body can be made from the camouflage of any system, constructed easily when you know how to do it.

The Sumarians—your Sumerians (spelled)—did this when they initiated the culture spoken about in your books. Their sense of time is completely different, as however your own is innately. It is difficult to explain this, but keeping in touch with a civilization for several thousand years of your earth time, would entail perhaps the same amount of time and effort a man might take in his profession over a period of five to ten years, so the relativity of time is important in that context.

I told you once that there are clumps of consciousness. This does not mean that consciousness is not individual and separate, but that it also has a great ability to congregate, to reach out in affiliation, to share knowledge and experience, and to combine itself in everchanging patterns while still retaining its basic identity and integrity.

Your present civilization and the “old” (in quotes) Sumerian (spelled) civilization, exist at once, then, simultaneously, but to speak to you about these I must use a time sequence you understand. If it were understood that these civilizations exist at once then you would not be so surprised that they “were” (in quotes) able to build structures that you cannot build in your now.

You have learned how to make roads through space, but not through time on a conscious level. There are intersections in time and space however that you have not recognized. I am speaking in your terms, hopefully to make this simpler. (Pause.) Times exist then as surely as places. You think of time as moving toward something, and of space as relatively stable.

(“But first of all,” she added as we continued to talk, “either that instrument or another one was used to isolate the top layer of the stone from the rest of it so that it wasn’t weakened. We had been discussing the very intricate and extensive bas-relief carving pictured on the doorframes and lintels of the ruins at Baalbek in this instance —not say the in-the-round carving shown on columns, etc.

(11:32. Both of us were quite tired. There was much more data available, we knew, but we were too weary to get it.)