“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

As Nebene, while attracted by Ruburt, and in love with her, you considered her evil, and your attraction to her as a weakness on your part, a debasement: so now you find yourself in the position of helping Ruburt understand that his basic nature is good, that he is not leading people astray, as in that life you thought he was.

Ruburt demanded utmost obedience. He lived for the cause. Many were killed upon his word. His sense of energy was boundless, and he was convinced of his purpose. Toward the end of a long life, however, he began to doubt. Life was cheap. Give us a moment.

He determined then to keep this power to sway people in line, until, if ever, he was sure of his cause. He led armies, then, and to what end, he thought. It was in that life also that he knew Sue as the personality that sometimes has emerged between them.

(10:30. Jane remembered the material. She’s also had images. At break she got a series of images of the first ruler, bloodthirsty and joyous as he killed, she said. A great sword, a shield, cries; white teeth and dark skin. “And absolutely convinced of his views. I must be getting him bigger than life, because now I see him bounding all over Europe with his great big shield.” She had these images or impressions off to her left.

Now this is one of the reasons why he was so worried in this life, about leading people away from Christendom, for he did it before.

You were not that out of keeping with your times, then. The whole world, more or less, was experimenting with the use of brutal force as an accepted method of enforcing ideas. Anything else was the exception. There are other connections with this life, in which Ruburt chose a woman for his mother who was helpless. Not only could he not attack her, but he was in a position where he must serve her.

The Ottoman Empire’s death in its own way regenerated Europe, and its energy gave birth to the civilization that you know. The death of the Ottoman Empire enriched Europe. The pagan “Joy of life” in its own way sparked new blood. Christendom would have died out otherwise, for it was already tired. Unwittingly therefore Ruburt aided the growth of Christendom as it became known.