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The connection between the two was securely made. The meeting with your Seagull friend however also helped cement this realization on his part. The acceptance from another writer, simply on that level alone, was important: But the meeting with someone who also shared psychic and writing ability was vital.

Ruburt’s way has been different in many respects than your own. Before this, in those terms, he has chosen lives of great contrast and extravagance, with one or two characteristics relatively predominating, either for example extremely intellectual—genius—or idiocy. Dire poverty or great wealth.

This was when he was a male in Turkey, as the country has been called, and you were his cohort, as in the dream he had. There were two Turkish lives, one after another. He was a great leader, driven by the desire for power, and by a sense of purpose, in the Ottoman Empire. He wanted to conquer, and bring the world under Ottoman sway.

The two of you were exceedingly close in male comradeship—far more intense than any known now in your time. In your terms he was—in your terms from this standpoint—he was a fanatic against the Christians for religious, political and economic reasons. He feared Rome and hated it. It was no coincidence that Father Traynor used to read Don Juan of Austria (in the Catholic Church the young Jane attended), for they knew each other at that time.

In the first of those two lives, both of you to some extent tried to enforce your ideas of truth through force, physically. The use of great physical force therefore was used purposely. You were involved with your ideas of truth in an entirely different context, as was much of Europe at that time, and some of the world now.

Now the woman who was his mother this time had a connection with another leader—I am trying not to get distortions in here; you may have to check some of this later—I believe Charlemagne, and Ruburt slew him in battle, after he was first crippled. The two were bitter adversaries. Ruburt put himself in a position therefore where violence could not be used.

The personality however, tell him, lived according to his lights, possessed a primitive love of nature, and did, now, inspire others with heroism under the conditions chosen In the second existence mentioned, he was again a leader, but had learned the two-tongued nature of power, and allowed the Christians to win. In a way he handed that burden over to them. They had to grapple with it, and for several centuries.