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(By now I had learned that she could speak under hypnosis without difficulty, a point we had wondered about to at least some extent. I thought she was in a light trance state and Jane later agreed that she was, that she felt very relaxed. Often as I spoke to her I told her she would have full memory of what transpired when the session was over. When it was over, she told me her memory of parts of the session was somewhat hazy— reinforcing the idea that she was hypnotized, if somewhat imperfectly, and that my control was not all it will be in future sessions.

(I began to tell Jane that she was now going into a deeper trance. This proved effective, I soon learned. Jane said she had no particular feeling of entering a deeper state, but when I brought her out of it at the end of the session she had a very definite feeling of rising, of leaving it to return to full consciousness.

(Previously Jane had spoken the one word “four” without elaboration, even when I asked her to explain. She now repeated it again, still without explanation, and later told me that she was aware of resistance concerning the word. Next she said “1961”, and “Florida.”

(We have lived in Elmira since 1960, and were in Florida before this, so the discrepancy is apparent. I did not correct it, for it seemed we were getting to some material that was emotionally strong for Jane in recall. By now I had begun to tentatively mention the symptoms, and to ask Jane what she could say about their origin. It was almost as though she had been waiting for these questions; she quickly spoke the word Florida, and after this I had no doubt that she was at least fairly well hypnotized.

(Quickly now, Jane began to talk, and I encouraged her to do so. At the same time she turned on her side toward me and drew her legs up, almost in a fetal position. She also began to cry. Her voice however never became loud. Her eyes did not open. She said two things, close together, that I at once recognized as important. [Both of these were elaborated upon later.]

(It was, I believe, after my own recovery that Jane’s first symptoms, unrecognized by us as to their potential severity, began to show. And now under hypnosis Jane said the second important thing: she told me that if she got sick, I wouldn’t be sick any longer. It is true that I have been in generally very good health since my own illness in 1963. However I have two symptoms carried over from that period, that still must be dealt with, and I feel these are directly related to Jane’s symptoms. That is, I believe there is a close interaction between us that is responsible for the bulk of symptoms upon either side.

(The balance of the session tonight after these two important revelations, consisted of an interchange between us that stressed reassurance upon my part,; including the statement, repeated often, that Jane now understood she didn’t need her symptoms any longer, that they could begin to disappear. I made strong efforts here to tell her of my love, and to impress upon her that our travels had also been enjoyable and adventurous along with their hazards, and that whatever we had done was done together; no one should feel blame. Yet it was now apparent that Jane felt a sense of blame, even shame; at the start of the deeper trance state she told me she felt I was mad at her all the time because I had worked full time at Artistic, etc; I tried to counter this by pointing out to her the benefits we had both obtained from this.

(The session ended at about 10:45 PM. Since Jane was by now much more relaxed I thought it a good time to end. After beneficial suggestions as to her state of well-being, I told her that when I had counted to ten, slowly, that she would be out of trance and could open her eyes.

(Two additional points now recalled: When she began talking about Florida, Jane told me “I got scared in Florida”; she was also sure I would leave her when the job situation got so bad and things didn’t work out as we’d hoped they would. [I remember her telling me this in Marathon, when I returned to the trailer after driving out to get a job painting signs.]