“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(On Friday evening, September 5, we had as visitors Dick and Carol Crossed; Edward Gassner, 3664 Culver Road [14622], and Bernard Houlihan, 25 Ewer Avenue [14622]—all of Rochester, New York. No session was held. Ed Gassner offered to do work with Jane and Seth; he is a biologist, Ph.D.

(In this session. held on Monday, Seth gave some data re Betty Taylor also. Jane called B.T. the next day and was given verification of some points by B.T. over the phone. Betty would like a copy of the data to study some of the other points. The results of this study will be included with a later session, which may be named here by number at least.)

(9:37. Jane’s trance was very good, she said. She told me that as she gave the above data, concerning the individual of whom I will do reincarnational portraits, that she could “almost see this guy.” But she couldn’t elaborate on any physical characteristics.

(Pause.) The entire future involvement with that group was incipient on the day that Jim Crosson read Ruburt’s first book.

A relative, a very close friend, an older man (her father?) connected with the university. An initial engagement that was broken. (Checked, etc.) A grandmother with something wrong with a right leg.

Ed. This could have been her husband, or a man close. (Ed was the name of BT’s first husband, she told Jane over the phone.) A middle name beginning with B, or his nickname with a B who worked in a building that from the outside looks like a large (pause), building almost entirely of unbroken plate glass windows on the ground floor, such as those that cars might be displayed in. A corner building, I presume, since I see one side of the building, where the other side is flush to others.

(10:10. Jane was out of trance quickly. She knew in a general way that impressions were involved. She didn’t remember any of the data before the impressions. Also, we might add that we hadn’t asked for impressions this evening, and so didn’t expect them, etc.

(Long pause at 10:30.) There is another man who could share the program with him, the one mentioned in our earlier session (the 496th), that was thought not available. Ruburt would take the program away from Crosson quite without meaning to do so. Do you follow me?

(“Okay.” I was about to get up to deposit Willy on the floor.)

(10:42. Jane went over her dream for me during break. It was a long dream. She had it three nights ago; when she got up during the night to write it down, she found the task took an hour. It has been on her mind since then.

The divorce was a distortion (pause), not of memory but of interpretation, representing a psychic separation that occurred between you, not in 1964 but later, when Ruburt became ill—and to some extent (underlined) you did hold him back, as you know from the work with the pendulum that you did. You were for that time divorced from each other in attitude, and lacked communication.

This was the knowledge that the woman had of Ruburt’s past life. Ruburt interpreted it in literal terms as a divorce. Now give me a moment. (Pause.) This obviously was the second dream.

Ruburt did see the Buffalin man. The wife in astral form was also here. Ruburt followed Buff to another layer of existence, (pause), with many who had died that evening. Ruburt formed the prosaic background himself however.

I was the guide he was searching for, and they were looking for me, though they did not know my name. This was a clearing place for personalities leaving the physical plane. In their astral forms they adopted their normal dress, hence the varying costumes. They realized that Ruburt was still physical. This is why he was told he could travel no further. He was afraid momentarily there would be no physical world to return to—simply his personal reaction.

You therefore appeared with the newspapers to reassure him that tomorrow in your terms did exist. The people in the offices did of course have information concerning your lives. The affair with the screen was distorted but legitimate—the screen was his mind—objectified outward, so to speak.

The colors, brilliant and mobile, represented the overall healthy state of his psyche. The image of the woman was indeed himself in future years, signifying to the others that he was a wanderer and should go back. This is why they laughed, since he did not recognize himself. He was therefore sent back to the woman in the first office.

The dream was significant because for the first time he was actively seeking me as a guide, and met with those who were leaving physical reality in a group. In the next such dream he will find me of course, or I will find him.

The last episode merely represented his return to physical reality. He saw the two of you as Italian because this was the most earthy type he could think of. (Humorously.) Your image however was as you will be at one time in your future. The beard was legitimate—you were simply older.

(Humorously again:) I do not know why you will grow a beard. It was not a long one. This is why he had you pretending to be Italian. Do you follow me?

The new and important development therefore was that he went out to seek me. He asked the woman if she knew me, but she did not. They were sending someone to find me. (Pause.) Their state is not one where they can instantaneously communicate with me, or I with them.

(“Yes.” It wasn’t until this moment that I realized I hadn’t described the dream to Jane. It was a long one also.)

The dream was symbolic. Your brother Dick was invisible in one episode, and he is psychically very aware of your father’s condition. He fears, your father, far more than your brother or you, and he will be free, or feel free, of many issues with your father’s death.

(This last sentence as I recorded it is obviously distorted. As Jane spoke I had the odd feeling that she, Seth, and I were all thinking about different events. By this time I was quite weary. I could see that Jane was also.)

We will then end our session. My heartiest regards to you both. There was an inverted quality about the dream, because you were looking at things from a different viewpoint.

(11:15. I explained my dream to Jane so she would have a basis for discussion, since we planned now to ask Seth to explain his above data in relation to the dream. Some of it could apply; I did not understand the reference to bed and bedroom however. I didn’t recall my brother Dick in the dream. Jane said she was too tired to clear the matter up this evening, so we’ll take it up next session.)