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SESSION 458

(Sue Mullin was a witness to the session.

(For a while now Jane and I have been considering the question, aloud, of Seth’s availability to us whenever we choose to hold a session. This would take into account our physical time system, etc. We thought the question would have many ramifications. Note that I didn’t specifically ask that the question be discussed this evening.

Now. As to my availability at your sessions.

You know the nature of personality now to some degree, and I am always to some degree present at your sessions. (Smile.) Now give us a moment.

(This is a refinement of the question, and a good one. When Jane and I wonder about Seth’s seeming availability, we mean the scheduled Monday and Wednesday evening sessions, an occasional appearance at one of Jane’s ESP classes, and an occasional dropping in at an unscheduled session, perhaps on a weekend, etc.

I am however, again, automatically a part of the message that I bring to you. At times, for various reasons, I am here more completely than in other sessions. These reasons however have to do with circumstances that are usually beyond “normal” control: electromagnetic conditions, psychological circumstances—the psychological climate for example. All of these could be considered as atmospheric conditions through which I must enter.

When it seems to you that there is a difference between the focus in sessions, then it is simply that the reception conditions are poor. There is also a complicated psychological, very delicate manipulation that must occur. Sometimes there are small errors, so that the reception does not come as clearly.

(To me:) I have told you that your own presence is also involved here to some extent, and whether or not you are present at any given session.

The teacher transforms the TV screen until the TV screen becomes momentarily the teacher. Now it makes little difference, you see, when the transformation is worked, in your terms, or what dials are turned, or whether or not I as myself am at this moment within Ruburt speaking in your terms, or whether I did this (meaning this session, being delivered by Jane now) last evening in your terms, and tonight is a film or playback.

For in my present in your terms, I am also the personality who is not speaking this evening, the Seth who does not have those characteristics with which you are so familiar. It is unfortunate that I must use terms of time to explain this to you, but as I told you many sessions ago, my time is not your time. (Humorously.)

Again, this does not imply that such a session is less legitimate than others. It simply means that I use what you would call time in a different way than you.

Now, some part of Ruburt is of course aware, for I would not intrude, and he has long since given his permission for such an arrangement. Nor, because you ask specific questions at a specific session, and I answer them, does it necessarily mean that the program has not been prepared, in your terms, earlier; for on many occasions I will see the questions within your mind, or the minds of your witnesses, and will therefore answer them, in your terms ahead of time.

Give us a moment. (Pause.) This does not mean however that I use Ruburt as a puppet, and stuff his mouth with tapes as a recorder, and that you are always listening to replays, or that emotionally I am not here during such sessions. It means that in such multidimensional communications I can be here emotionally. I can be here in your terms at appointed times, for the medium is also more than the message.

The teacher is within the tape. The personality is condensed. Your question stems however from the idea that if I am here I cannot be somewhere else at the same time, or that all of my energies must be focused here at the session. There are aspects of my identity with which you are not acquainted, though you may be at some later date in your terms. (Smile.

I use certain facets of my personality, for they are helpful as a teacher. You know all of me that you are able to know, at any given time in your terms. (Pause.) It would be relatively (underlined)but certainly practically impossible, for me to make my full reality clear to you, now, in our sessions, for your understanding would not contain it.

(9:47. Seth ended on a humorous note, and Jane was out of trance quickly. This proved to be the end of the session.

(Continuation of Session 458, January 20, 1969, after break at 9:47. This material is not included in the records.

Now you may end the session or take a break as you prefer.