“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(The 440th session was held on October 7, and was addressed to Pat. Roger’s list contained a fourth question addressed to Seth; this one concerns the Bahai faith, was formulated by a girl friend of Pat’s, and will be answered by Seth at a later date.

(We hadn’t planned on dealing with Roger’s questions particularly this evening. I merely showed Jane the list shortly before 9 PM. What followed was surprising to us in several ways, and raised many questions that we will now search out answers for.

(Strictly speaking, we do not believe Seth as we known him and are used to him, gave the material tonight. Jane spoke while in a trance state, but in her usual voice, and received the data from “another source.” Our questions will have to do with the nature of this source, why this particular data came through in this fashion, etc. Jane is used to giving impressions on her own as well as through Seth, but there seemed to be an intriguing difference this evening. Jane would find herself speaking a few lines, then waiting for more to come, which she would then dutifully recite. She felt no other personality’s presence, etc; whatever the source, it appeared to be blocked off from her emotionally and subjectively in the usual sense; yet the material was given.

(Jane’s impressions are in Roman type, like Seth’s. While giving the data she was able to speak to me and describe her subjective state also, without breaking the thread of her reception.

(Jane then told me to wait, that when she got something it was “real clear,” but that she didn’t know where it was coming from. I said she could wait and let Seth deal with the data, and she rejoined that she didn’t want to interrupt what she was getting. At times she spoke in a hesitant voice, at other times very rapidly, and usually with a puzzled expression; eyes open often, as usual in her trance states.)

The—I don’t know what you call these ... (When I said I didn’t know how to write down what she was telling me, Jane said:)Just put: the minus numbers represent negative charges, and mark the activity of ions’ negative flow. The minus numbers mask integers that have a positive meaning or action (pause), and take on the tasks ordinarily assigned in this dimension to the positive ones.

The order of value descends in direct proportion (Jane’s tone was very puzzled, eyes open), to the order of ascension on the positive side. (Then she added: ) This is to make that clearer; talking about negative and positive values, and on the negative side the value descends in direct proportion to the order of ascension on the positive side.

(Resume:) X Y I’m not sure, either to the 2nd or 9th power, that goes next to Y over a line; pi, and (pause) one of those marks between, an equal mark I think (Jane was now trying to draw marks in the air), C C something that looks like an H over a line, 4. This is a multidimensional game. Have fun.

(9:49. Another break. Jane said she wasn’t aware of any particular source for the data—she was “trancey” and the words just came in. It wasn’t Seth, she said. She didn’t know if she got all the words right, but did as well as she could. As far as she knows, she doesn’t have “the slightest mathematical vocabulary.”

(The equation she tried to give doesn’t make sense to her; she now looked at Roger’s questions again briefly. What she got when giving the equation was not really a vision, she said; it didn’t look like Roger’s writing; she seemed to get the data in words and feelings, numbers radiating or pulsating within at the appropriate times in the data.

(Jane doesn’t know what Bainbridge means, whether it is Roger’s mother’s maiden name, a place, or what. When the data stopped flowing Jane would just relax and wait for things to come through again. The “have fun” and the use of the word “I” made it seem as though a specific source was responsible for the data.

(We hoped that after this rest Seth would come through and explain what was going on, but instead Jane resumed as before. She spoke in her own voice, rapidly and slowly by turn, eyes open often and with many a pause and puzzled expression. Resume at 10:00.)

(Long pause. Again Jane said: “Don’t write anything yet, I’m not sure of what I’m getting,” while I wrote it anyhow:) I’m getting the impression of a little man with dark hair, and he seems very far away, so I think he’s in the past; and he has old-fashioned clothes on... a watch chain and a vest... connected with a college, a prestige one like Princeton or Yale; and he worked on mathematical theories, and he suspected, oddly enough, that some integers or numbers had unsuspected values, and he was right.

(Jane didn’t have the slightest idea of where the information was coming from. She felt subjectively that the data came to her from her right side, via a channel. This contrasts with the overhead channel or pyramid effect she feels subjectively when Seth’s larger entity speaks.

(Jane waited to see if more was coming. She then resumed in the same manner, rather objectively, although with many a puzzled expression, eyes open often, voice her own, etc., at 10:30.)

(10:45. Again the flow of information stopped. Jane said her focus of attention was intense while speaking for whatever the source of data was. She doesn’t recall hearing about psi factors, but I had, and thought she had also at various times, without knowing what the term applied to; the same with cohesives, conciliatory fashion, etc., although these would be much less common to us.

(11:10. Jane’s pace had slowed considerably toward the end, so she decided she’d better come out. So did I. As she left trance she received: Michigan was the place of birth; then she came out.

(Jane was really bewildered by this data tonight. To her numbers have no emotional meaning. For this reason any subconscious dramatization would seem to be ruled out; we will investigate the source however.