“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Below is a copy of three questions sent to Jane by Roger Sullivan, a friend of Pat Norelli; both live in Boston. Roger is working on a doctorate. The questions were sent on October 6, but we haven’t been able to deal with them before this because of many other events.

(Strictly speaking, we do not believe Seth as we known him and are used to him, gave the material tonight. Jane spoke while in a trance state, but in her usual voice, and received the data from “another source.” Our questions will have to do with the nature of this source, why this particular data came through in this fashion, etc. Jane is used to giving impressions on her own as well as through Seth, but there seemed to be an intriguing difference this evening. Jane would find herself speaking a few lines, then waiting for more to come, which she would then dutifully recite. She felt no other personality’s presence, etc; whatever the source, it appeared to be blocked off from her emotionally and subjectively in the usual sense; yet the material was given.

(Needless to say, neither Jane or I know math; I may know a little more than Jane, but I couldn’t explain an integer to her at break this evening, for instance. A few phrases that came through in the data had a familiar ring to me, but Jane said they meant nothing to her.

(Jane then told me to wait, that when she got something it was “real clear,” but that she didn’t know where it was coming from. I said she could wait and let Seth deal with the data, and she rejoined that she didn’t want to interrupt what she was getting. At times she spoke in a hesitant voice, at other times very rapidly, and usually with a puzzled expression; eyes open often, as usual in her trance states.)

(For some reason Jane then told me I didn’t have to put this down, but I did so anyway: ) The order of the integers on the negative side descends in direct proportion to the order of ascension of integers on the positive side. But the balance between them, the two systems, is only apparent from your particular viewpoint, and not basic.

There is an instability and still unpredictable activity inherent in the integers (pause), but shows more strongly, or appears, after the 9th power.

This instability isn’t noticeable here, even after the 9th power, but it exists. The unpredictability seems to result in the dissolution of quadrants under certain conditions. The value of the integers would seem to dissolve (pause) at the speed of light, but it is precisely here that the minus numbers take over and become, or take on, the value of the positive numbers.

(9:49. Another break. Jane said she wasn’t aware of any particular source for the data—she was “trancey” and the words just came in. It wasn’t Seth, she said. She didn’t know if she got all the words right, but did as well as she could. As far as she knows, she doesn’t have “the slightest mathematical vocabulary.”

(We hoped that after this rest Seth would come through and explain what was going on, but instead Jane resumed as before. She spoke in her own voice, rapidly and slowly by turn, eyes open often and with many a pause and puzzled expression. Resume at 10:00.)

At a certain point the integers seem to dissolve; their value undermined (“I think this bit has to do with that Planck thing,” Jane said), but here they actually pick up added powers, precisely where you cannot follow, in integer, where its values seem to be undermined. At this point it is raised to another power that escapes the perceptive abilities of the 3-dimensional brain.

It is as if infinity doubled in upon itself. Zero (gesture, a frown, a pause), being far from neuter, but a gateway through which the integrity of the other numbers come. The integrity of zero cannot be doubted.

You force stability upon them, but you cannot predict their action (puzzled again), when you cross them (pause), in the nature of a pi. The first formula is overloaded to the right. The negative values about it will supersede and gobble the integrity of 3; unload the 7. Greek (Jane paused and sat with her head cocked as though listening), and the theorems of (“I’m having trouble with the name.”) Minopeles (my phonetic interpretation), a minor mathematician.

Here the equation (voice pitched higher) seeks to turn inside out, but the functions and values of the integers return it to stability. The functions at times are completely reversed, but the overall integrity of the equation stands. Nature without its clothes on, ha, ha, ha. (Voice drops to normal). Or the alchemists out- did themselves.

(10:45. Again the flow of information stopped. Jane said her focus of attention was intense while speaking for whatever the source of data was. She doesn’t recall hearing about psi factors, but I had, and thought she had also at various times, without knowing what the term applied to; the same with cohesives, conciliatory fashion, etc., although these would be much less common to us.

The definite magnification, and outward from each number in pyramid form, the angle, unformulated functions. The true edification of the mathematician is to sense the values of the numbers’ move. The interaction accumulates. The effects build up, and are therefore demonstrable after psi makes its appearance known. Turn about the integers but there is no disorder, yet the precise neatness of the integers is based not upon basic order, but ordered chaos, that once in a millionfold escape of the integer from its bounds.

Here at the 9th power there is balance with the minus 9, but only for a moment. The unpredictability then enters in, flying the banners of a divided house. The atom lives in the unpredictable factor where the integers meet and fall apart. Here there is the development of new powers, and the negative functions come to the fore.

Here the great army of the integers vanishes into the mouths of the quadrants, and the destruction of the previous functions of the integers is accomplished. But the previous functions, dissolving, do so only to re-emerge in a new fashion, and up rise the values of the 12th powers, now under the triumphant banners of the psi factor, minus 7 over an unfolded pi. Regrouped, the values assault each other.

X has lost its strength and Y is under the siege of Planck. Planck’s forces (pause), triumph over the old values but zero gobbles some of Planck’s men, the integer minus 7, and to work out, psi must be confused for a moment with 8. The mistake is found, and Y is free. Too bad you neglected the psi factor. You thought 7 gobbled it up. 371 will not stand alone in that location. It is besieged by truth to the 3rd power, truth being one, hand in hand with 7. Three C (E?), 3C, over 9 to the 7th power, will temporarily equate with 9 over 137, might give you truth.