“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Before the session began I asked Jane to comment on two points made in the last session: The 442nd session was held on Monday, October 14. On Thursday, October 17, Jane unexpectedly received a royalty check from F. Fell re her ESP book; this after Seth had stated on page 107 that Jane would soon receive unexpected word regarding a book. The royalty check was expected later in the year. I wanted to know if this check represented the word referred to by Seth.

(This was a surprise, and it took me a moment to realize that Seth was referring to his own larger personality, his entity as we call it, and for whom Jane has occasionally spoken in a much different voice. See Jane’s notes at the end of this session.

(I found myself wondering how it was possible for Jane to be speaking for Seth, while at the same time being aware of Seth’s entity. I was not sure if this is quite the same situation that has prevailed in the past when Jane has spoken for both Seth and his entity during the same session.)

It will be thought at first that an error was made on the part of one in the ship who worked certain controls, but other data from other controls will prove that no error was made. It would seem minute, a matter of only a few degrees in measurements, but highly significant.

(Smile.) As long as he does not attempt to orbit the earth. Now. The activity of the ions, only slightly outside of the expected, will nevertheless make it plain that the scientists do not have predicted activity. Their predictions were based upon hypotheses that were not checked because it was not possible to check them under real conditions until this flight.

To the scientists this will seem to mean that the ionosphere is less stable than they supposed. The error was their own in the past. The flight will simply point out the correction, but it will mean that they will feel less secure about landing on the moon. In their terms it will seem that molecular activity is less predictable than they imagined.

Some difficulty in finger movements, that will be confidentially reported. Realization of this was behind the irritability expressed against new tests, for the men functioned well enough on tests for which they had been prepared and drilled.

(9:35. Jane’s trance was a good one but she came out of it easily enough after I spoke to her. She now told us that the other personality was about, and that she felt the pyramid effect to a mild degree. She whispered: “The other one is around here.” She began to sense the pyramid at break, after Seth had finished. We now explained something to John about the other personality, since he didn’t know anything about it.

(Finally she began. As expected the voice was quite high, clearly enunciating, seemingly distant and sexless; quite removed from any emotional immediacy. Jane’s eyes remained closed. Her pace was rather fast comparatively. As usual this new voice ended sentences on an unexpected upbeat, so that often a sentence was finished and a new one begun while I was writing without appropriate punctuation; then I would go back and add it in the proper places.

You are like children, in your terms, with a game, and you think that the game is played by everyone. Physical life is not the rule. Identity and consciousness existed long before your earth was formed.

(Jane’s voice trailed off. I thought this could be a typical unannounced break by the new personality; I was also ready to interrupt if I thought Jane was trying to get out of trance and having some difficulty.

(John and I waited. Two minutes passed. Jane sat with her head back, eyes closed, head nodding a little back and forth—an effect often noticed since last break. Jane coughed finally, and I began to speak to her. Then Seth came through, loud and clear; the suddenness startled us. The contrast between the two voices, the mannerisms, was marked.

(10:11. Jane then came out of trance shortly, without complications. She said she felt “tipped a little to the right,” during break, and a few times showed what I thought was a willingness to go back into trance. But she said her head was clear. She only vaguely sensed the pyramid.

(Jane said that with the new personality she was still not sure how to leave. In this instance she merely waited, then felt Seth, warm and emotional, sweep in to help her back. She said that some sounds could bother her while speaking for the other personality, and that if I touched her without preparation she’d feel as though she’d fall through space, yell out, etc.

(Approximately 10:35. Jane suddenly cried out and began to shake her head violently from side to side as she sat in her rocker. Her movements were so violent I feared she would tip over in the chair. John jumped up to steady her from her right. A glass of beer hit the floor. A second later I was at her left side, having to go around the coffee table to reach her.

(Jane’s eyes had been closed, and remained so. Oddly enough her glasses were on; nor did she lose them in the violent shaking. She was quiet now but it took some minutes before John and I could coax her out of trance. Needless to state the sudden end and reaction had been most startling to us. When her movements started I called loudly to her but did not get through.

(When she could finally talk Jane revealed that she had been experiencing a concept to accompany the personality’s words; this she has done before when speaking for Seth’s entity, and we have been told before that this is one of the reasons or purposes for her speaking for this new personality. But this one was a rough trip, Jane said. This experience, Jane said, “wasn’t great.”

(It wasn’t clear, Jane said, extremely difficult to put into words, but she found while speaking the appropriate lines that she was a giant, looking at John and me in the room, although her eyes were closed. She then experienced a tremendous feeling of growth. She felt her “organs growing,” along with John and me and everything in the room. Everything maintained its relative scale, but there was this enormous feeling of growth, as though each of us grew to the size of elephants, Jane said.

(“I don’t know whether he left me or not,” she said, “but suddenly I was me and all this was going on. It was fantastic. I was so completely enveloped by it ... I can’t describe it. I was so aware of everything in the room, but my eyes were closed all the time. It wasn’t great, this experience.”

(I hoped this meant the end of the session, but after a while it was obvious that Jane wanted to continue, or at least was willing to, in spite of the upsetting experience. I tried to talk her out of it. Her eyes kept closing. Finally she decided to continue.

Your Ruburt experienced a transmigration of systems. It was not meant to be unpleasant. (Pause.) This was his subjective interpretation. First he was involved in a microscopic adventure. Consciousness does not take up space. You must understand this. He then entered your own system of physical blocks, and by contrast that system then appeared huge and monstrous.

When we make contact his personality and consciousness in concentrated form makes its journey, in your terms like a speck in space, the consciousness reduced to its essence, and from this experience we then let him fall back into the physical system. (Pause.) Children’s blocks then become massive by contrast. It was an experience in concepts, and therefore an advance on your parts. (Smile.)

(11:02. Jane paused, and I spoke to her again. She said to me in a whisper: “Get me out of it.” I touched her shoulder and called her name a few times, as Seth once suggested I do, and she came out of the trance easily enough. This was the end of the session.

(Jane then said she had a bunch of concepts to tell us about, but didn’t want to experience them now, so she called to me. I had been speaking to her at each pause since last break, to give her something to hold on to. She said she didn’t know how or what she used to speak to me, but had hold of something. At one period Jane was going to shout “forget it” to the voice, but she couldn’t find her voice to do so.

(She described some subjective experiences she thought the personality was going to have her experience. A feeling of microscopic smallness approaching, the reverse of the giant feeling, etc. I told her she’d have to write out the data. She said the ideas were quickly leaving; the feelings were without words and she wasn’t used to that yet. She thinks she panics and so shuts the voice off. The pyramid effect was dwindling by 11:15.