“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now there is also someone else, if not at our session, then involved in it this evening, so that both of us are in contact. You would think that one of me would be sufficient.

A note regarding your astronauts and their latest excursion: new developments involving the ionosphere have been made during this trip, and to your scientists unpleasant ones, since they do not conform to previous theories.

It will be thought at first that an error was made on the part of one in the ship who worked certain controls, but other data from other controls will prove that no error was made. It would seem minute, a matter of only a few degrees in measurements, but highly significant.

(9:35. Jane’s trance was a good one but she came out of it easily enough after I spoke to her. She now told us that the other personality was about, and that she felt the pyramid effect to a mild degree. She whispered: “The other one is around here.” She began to sense the pyramid at break, after Seth had finished. We now explained something to John about the other personality, since he didn’t know anything about it.

(Finally she began. As expected the voice was quite high, clearly enunciating, seemingly distant and sexless; quite removed from any emotional immediacy. Jane’s eyes remained closed. Her pace was rather fast comparatively. As usual this new voice ended sentences on an unexpected upbeat, so that often a sentence was finished and a new one begun while I was writing without appropriate punctuation; then I would go back and add it in the proper places.

You see physical bodies and suppose that any personality must appear in physical terms. None of you are physical; that which is enduring is not physical. In that respect at least you are no different than I. Consciousness is the force behind matter, and it forms many other realities beside the physical one. It is only because your own viewpoint is presently so limited that it seems to you that physical reality is the rule and the mode and the purpose of existence.

There are many illusions, but the illusions are also real since they are created and since they exist. Yours is simply not one that I have pursued, and one of the purposes of my appearance at these sessions is to acquaint the one you call Ruburt with inner travel, for he must leave the system as you know it, and in doing so set up habits and paths that can be used to advantage.

You have your mathematics from us. You have a shadow of mathematics, for here again you have insisted upon hemming in realities, of applying larger elements of thought to your blocks. Your idea of progress is building bigger blocks, like children sitting upon the floor. Yet none of us would think of kicking aside your block constructions in ire, or telling you to put aside children’s toys, though one day you shall do so.

(When she could finally talk Jane revealed that she had been experiencing a concept to accompany the personality’s words; this she has done before when speaking for Seth’s entity, and we have been told before that this is one of the reasons or purposes for her speaking for this new personality. But this one was a rough trip, Jane said. This experience, Jane said, “wasn’t great.”

(Jane then said she had a bunch of concepts to tell us about, but didn’t want to experience them now, so she called to me. I had been speaking to her at each pause since last break, to give her something to hold on to. She said she didn’t know how or what she used to speak to me, but had hold of something. At one period Jane was going to shout “forget it” to the voice, but she couldn’t find her voice to do so.