“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

You are like children, in your terms, with a game, and you think that the game is played by everyone. Physical life is not the rule. Identity and consciousness existed long before your earth was formed.

You see physical bodies and suppose that any personality must appear in physical terms. None of you are physical; that which is enduring is not physical. In that respect at least you are no different than I. Consciousness is the force behind matter, and it forms many other realities beside the physical one. It is only because your own viewpoint is presently so limited that it seems to you that physical reality is the rule and the mode and the purpose of existence.

The source and the power of your present consciousness is not and has never been physical, and where I am many are not even aware that such a physical system exists. You have chosen your own illusion, and so you must accept it, and from its viewpoint must you try to understand the realities that exist beyond it.

Your Ruburt experienced a transmigration of systems. It was not meant to be unpleasant. (Pause.) This was his subjective interpretation. First he was involved in a microscopic adventure. Consciousness does not take up space. You must understand this. He then entered your own system of physical blocks, and by contrast that system then appeared huge and monstrous.

When we make contact his personality and consciousness in concentrated form makes its journey, in your terms like a speck in space, the consciousness reduced to its essence, and from this experience we then let him fall back into the physical system. (Pause.) Children’s blocks then become massive by contrast. It was an experience in concepts, and therefore an advance on your parts. (Smile.)