“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now. I have several remarks to make. First, Ruburt’s decision not to speak to Dr. Freudenberger’s class was a good one at this time (underlined). There is no reason to elaborate here. (See the 439th session, September 30, 1968.)

There are several points I would like to make concerning psychological identity. For the sake of analogy only now, imagine your present self at the center of a circle of endless spirals. You are yourself, and yet one of the spirals that form the circle. You are a vortex for the circle. You do not have to contact it nor its other spirals, in that you already belong to it.

Now the same is true of other portions of your entity, if you consider any other given portion as being the vortex of its own circle. In any psychic investigations or endeavors you will often gain assistance and support from those others who make up the circle of which you are a part.

Now I am speaking simply, for I am speaking of a circle as you understand it in three-dimensional terms, but there are more depths and dimensions to a circle than you can imagine when you picture, say, a globe; and so of course in this analogy identity has other dimensions that do not appear.

Now the circumference of these circles interlap and bisect each other. Nor are the dimensions of circumference or radius stationary in your terms, for they exist in value fulfillment rather than in space, and their measurements in terms of intensity rather than in inches or miles.

Now this is identity as it is not generally known, and in this analogy lies the truth of the nature of identity. Later you will understand it better.

(9:49. Jane easily emerged from a deep trance, she said. She said she didn’t feel like delivering any more emotional material at the moment. She had internal images or visions of the circles and vortexes as Seth spoke, but she could not now put these into words. They also changed as Seth continued discussing the analogies involved.

Now. From my standpoint your various reincarnated selves are not seen separately, but as your earthly personality.

Our contacts now are not just contacts with Robert F. Butts and Jane Roberts, and that is why I have always used your entity names. The contact is also with your other reincarnated selves that you do not presently recall. (Smiling:) I see a larger portion of your identity than you do.

(“What do you see right now?”)

Right now I see you symbolically speaking, in your terms, as the sum of the various people I have known in past lives as you, plus the you that is present, in your terms. In terms then of vision, I see Joseph rather than Robert. And I speak through Ruburt rather than the less—rather than the more limited concept of Jane. Do you follow me?

Now. Our relationship, simply in these terms, is multidimensional. For you also react to me unknowingly on the basis of other relationships with me that you do not consciously recall.

In the future now that Ruburt has loosened, we will deal with your reincarnational backgrounds in some detail. Now give me a moment. (Pause.)

Now mathematicians will not like this, but in your (underlined) terms within the multidimensional circle image, we form a triangle. The triangle is mobile, but we are to some extent (underline some) eternally allied. We were always formed something more than we are individually, in your terms.

Now this is not unique by any means. There are numberless other such situations, and I mean numberless. Comparatively speaking however, the situation is unique.

Now within our relationship as a triangle, dimensions are open and constantly changing. Because of it we have all a rather unusual freedom. Now, I am part of another triangle still, that is within this circle, and through my contacts with this other triangle there are abilities, perceptions, insights, talents available to you that you have barely begun to tap.

The episode would take place fairly shortly in your time, in the immediate future. Now I am after something here, difficult to pinpoint, and will give you what clues I can. (Pause.)

We are getting more of this sort of information because Ruburt allows it now, but since it involves yourselves we are learning personally to get through such information, where with others we have progressed to some extent beyond that point, you see. This represents progression on Ruburt’s part, but he must still learn lessons that he has already learned in giving such information to others. Do you follow?

(10:40. Jane sat motionless in her rocker now, head tipped to her left shoulder. I had to call her many times to help her out of her trance. She held a lighted cigarette also and it was burning closer to her fingers, so I took it away.

(Her trance had been so deep we called this the end of the session. The auto accident data was quite unasked for and unexpected. Jane had a feeling of four other people in a car, with us, but couldn’t be more definite. The Gallaghers came to mind now as we discussed this, but she doesn’t know why. A bit later Jane thought of Claire Crittenden, who is out of town, again without knowing why.

(It is Saturday, October 19 as this is written now, and so far nothing untoward accidentwise has developed for either of us. Each day we have reminded ourselves to be careful. I have been especially cautious, even driving to work, etc. We will continue this regimen.