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SESSION 441

Now, we will let our other people’s sessions go for now.

I have been aware of the Pitre request, and when any of your correspondents are in very immediate need I will always hold a session for them at once.

Some of the Pitre problems that he spoke about a month or so ago have already taken care of themselves, but we will have a session for him. Ruburt need not feel so responsible in such cases.

Now he has been ten or so minutes late at session time, and the reason I should think is fairly obvious. It was also the reason why he suggested beginning a session earlier (this evening at supper time), though he did not know this; and in any case what he suggested, on regular terms, was not really what he wanted.

This was on his part simply an attempt for spontaneity. The spontaneous self had risen up against what it considered the rigidity of beginning a session at a particular moment. He began then craftily so that sessions began after nine o’clock, and then suggested the earlier hour. Now this is simply a minor and temporary element, originally because he has begun his Thursday classes and is therefore further regulated.

He realizes that a specific time is more practical. He enjoyed last evening’s spontaneous session (for Jane’s Tuesday night ESP class), and such sessions, while they do not particularly add to our material, replenish his creative efforts and give him a sense of freedom. The spontaneity often, though not always, helps to focus his abilities, and provides us with an excellent trance state. The spontaneity provides its own training. You may have noticed that often when you miss a regular session, I have held a spontaneous one in class.

Now Ruburt feels, at times unreasonably, for you have told him differently, that you think he shirks when he misses sessions. The sessions need regularity. They also need spontaneity, and for his own nature, I try to see that both needs are met. This is for the benefit of our sessions and for overall balance and efficiency.

Now I am here now rather clearly. I know more than you know, and I realize that we will get through the material, that I have in mind, so it does not bother me when I hold informal sessions, sessions in which material is not always stressed. More happens in these sessions than appears in the written record.

Now you are concerned with our material and so is Ruburt. But there is also a strongly personal interrelationship between the three of us, and this is also important. If you, Joseph, have any questions feel free to ask them. Remember that the emotional element is behind all of our sessions. Without it there would be no sessions and I would not be here.

Now our sessions take little time. If they took twice the time you would still be very well off for what you get out of them. The recording of them does take time, and over this I personally have no control. There is a possibility that Ruburt could get help from his students here to relieve you, but I do not believe that you would want anyone at our regular sessions. The typing does take time from your own work.

Yet the sessions also help your work, and you cannot count the ways that you have learned from them. You are feeling crowded, however. This is to you, Joseph. Therefore I suggest that we have a week’s vacation. On your account this time, and not on Ruburt’s.

I never want you to feel that your work time is being invaded by the work in recording sessions.

(“I mean other things besides the sessions in our daily lives.”

(Sometimes my comments to Seth are rather cryptic because of the time it takes to speak to him and write out the statement at the same time. Often the groundwork has been laid before a session, also, so that the brief comments merely reminds me of what was said earlier, without going into detail.

(This is the case here: Jane and I had discussed this problem of time before the session. Usually I have little trouble fitting the typing into our daily routine. It is true that we would sorely miss the sessions; much that is useful to us personally would be gone, even if this were the only reason we held them.

I am far more interested in personality equations than in mathematical ones. I have said what I intended to say this evening. Now you may ask me questions or end the session, or I will begin some other material. Or you may take a break and think of questions, or just take as rest as you prefer.

(Naturally I found all this quite interesting. I was aware of none of it while making the two small oil sketches in September 1968. I now knew which two Seth referred to; strangely enough, I hadn’t thought of them as being of the same personality at all. I don’t think they bear any striking resemblance to each other, though in a general way they could be of the same type of person. After the session Jane told me that she knew at once, after I had finished them, that they were of the same person; she took it for granted that I knew this also.

(At the time of this session Mother is visiting my brother Loren in Tunkhannock, Pennsylvania for a couple of weeks, and cannot visit Father in the county home at Burlington, Pennsylvania.)

(See the 398th session, March 11, 1968 in Volume 8.)

Then take a rest. You may end the session or I will continue along the same line. It is your decision.

(10:52. I thought this was the end of the session. Jane’s trance was obviously deep and I began to urge her out of it verbally. After a while she began to talk to me, slowly, yet gave every sign of continuing the session on her own, and in the highly emotional manner of the 435th session of September 11, 1968. This I wanted to prevent; even while she told me that Seth protected her, she began to whimper, eyes closed, and talk about my father.

(Jane had resumed her seat. I was somewhat dismayed to see her abruptly resume the session, as Seth, at 11:05.)

I have come through, now, to stabilize his system, as the content of the material frightened him. Now I presume that you wish to end the session. Circumstances have been good this week however, which is why we have had three sessions. On other occasions circumstances are not good. Do you have questions?

(This week Jane also held a long session for her Tuesday night ESP class.)

We will therefore end the session. My heartiest regards to you both. These sessions are as beneficial as those containing more abstract material; though the material will never take second place, this is also a means of learning.