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With Philip I see a triangle. One man is more prominent. I interpret this to mean that two men are involved beside Philip, and that one is more prominent or much stronger than the other. He is at the strong point of the triangle, and he would try to manipulate both Philip and the man. The other man is weaker than Philip in overall strength. Give us a moment with this.

The third man will fall off the triangle. He will lose his position as far as bargaining power is concerned, or he will let it go. But for some reason he will lose within the organization what strength he now has.

([John:] “Is this the current strong man or the weaker man?”)

This is the man who is now in the weaker position. He will lose even that strength that he now has. He will seem to dangle for a while, but his hold will lessen.

Another will take his place amid bargaining and some positioning. You will hold your position, that is, it will not be weakened. The balance of power will shift however. The man who takes the weak man’s place will be stronger than he was.

Now I have seen, and see, the image of the triangle, and have presumed Philip that you were one of the men involved. These three men however may instead be closely connected with your own prospects, but if so the position of the third man, given up to now as you, is as I have given it; and if he is not you then his position parallels your own strongly.

The two stronger men now at two points of the triangle will overpower the strength of the man who has been at the main position. I have been seeing the triangle with the man with the strongest position at the top or apex. Now the triangle turns and the man at the apex is brought lower.

There seems to be a connection with Chicago, and further a connection with Los Angeles. The Los Angeles connection belongs to the man who replaces the weak man. This seems to be the main issue in the organization. One man is white-haired, one is sandy-haired. I see glasses and a peaked nose.

One is a Presbyterian or an Episcopalian, and the weak man either has no particular religion or no strong questions or doubts regarding existence. He swings as the wind blows. Beneath this imaginary triangle however there are other movements. Now I have the letters R and J. Whether these are initials of one man, or the first letters of two men’s names, I do not know.

All probabilities taken into consideration, it seems now that the man at the apex of the triangle will topple, but if so he will not understand why. There is a man in your own acquaintance who will be somewhat instrumental, and yet you do not regard him as a close friend, and to some extent you distrust him. Again, do not jump the gun, you are not sure whose hand may be on the trigger.

Your own advantage will come when the weak man falls off, for another will match you in strength, and together you will change the balance. The man you have been thinking of this evening will not betray you. He may forget you. Your position within the company will be assured, and has been, as long as you continue your bulldog tactics. You aggravate them, and yet you make them think. They dislike you for the aggravation, but they admire you because you make them think, and they now are beginning to believe that your thoughts can save them money and time.

There seems to be a messenger through whom you are sending your own attitudes and setting your terms, and he can only be trusted so far. The 13th of next month is somehow significant in this regard. You are seeing some issues very clearly, but some you are ignoring. There is a short man. It is difficult to describe him here, because of Ruburt’s associations. The image is of one dapper, given to pinstripe suits, slippery.

This is Ruburt’s interpretation of a crook. But the point is that you are not paying enough attention to this type of man. He is physically short, and I believe either dark-haired now, or he was dark-haired. He is separated from you by two positions, and he knows your messenger.

He is an acquaintance of the messenger and he is superficially friendly with the messenger, and he may (underlined) have warned you against him in the past. If he has not, he has been personally suspicious but did not consider the man that important, though the term is relative.

(The strong link would be a man named Stan, the regional manager at the triangle’s apex. Stan is against John’s promotion. John feels changes are in the wind.

Now. You will end up if you persist, and I imagine you will persist, first in either a position as fourth man down from the top, or in four positions up from where you are.

Now, give us good time here. There are two triangles which have merged into one, for one is involved with the present, and one with the future. The present triangle concerns the interpretation which you have made, and your immediate superior is the man who falls.

But there is also another triangle, and this is the meaning of the symbol. I am seeing movement and shifts of power. In your present there is the immediate triangle of which I have spoken. In your present there is also a triangle symbolizing those now at the top of the structure, and there is movement there also, and a man will fall. But both of these triangles lead to a future triangle in which you will be intimately involved if you continue your bulldog tactics.

Now this is sometime in the future and you will jockey from fourth to third position in the higher echelons of the company. I see you again at the right leg of the triangle, and again the man at the left leg will fall.

This is, so far, your fate as far as probabilities and your own inclinations are concerned. This is where your interest and abilities and intent will get you if they do not change; and the position has potentials on the one hand, and on the other hand disadvantages. For in this future the man on the left will again falter, though he is not the same man. Another, stronger, will take his place, and together you will balance the entire structure.

When the triangle is changed, when the weak man falls and the stronger man comes, then is the time to move. (Jane pointed to John for emphasis.) Now this is your game. You will be changing the rules, but you had better be sure that you play the game for all that it is worth, and use your best abilities, for it is your vehicle for self-expression and creativity.

Now you may take a break as you prefer, and let our good King Philip rest. Your energies as a man are poured into this company however, and even as ahuman being, alone, you seek to form it. Then do so in your own way. In the overall your wife will be of more benefit to you than you suppose.

The other man will be strong but his strength and yours will reinforce each other. But he will want different things so your conflicts will be minimized. There will be two men jockeying for the weak man’s position, each from different areas... The one man will not make it. Someone who is immediately behind him, seemingly with no power, will nevertheless prevent his movement.

Now there is a man in his 50’s now, above you in position, whom you must watch. Nondescript hair, not slim nor overly porky, with fat fingers, fat wrists with perhaps hair there—a whitish hand, or rather whitish hands. Smooth hands.

You have met him in Chicago. He has short legs. His own ambitions override all else. While he is honest when he says something, his own ambitions betray him into untruths. He is not to be trusted. I believe he is two steps away from you, and usually you know better a man who stands between you and him. The letters L A R come into mind here, and I do not know specifically to what they refer.

I believe the man to be a Catholic, or highly religious otherwise. You have met him on two occasions in particular, and you may have had words with him at one time.