“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

The unscrambled information, again, would be meaningless, and even undependable. Ruburt’s initial experience represented such an encounter. It is only because of his own abilities that he was able to translate the information for himself to any degree.

Seth gave him the information in a dream. He was afraid of Seth but not of the information.

He is forced in one way to reach further into inner reality, for I do not come as immediately to you as Seth as you knew him did. Since I am not here that immediately, then Ruburt must go further. Seth is always there between us to help in this procedure.

Now in your last session Ruburt was given a very primary experience. You asked what it was like to be a personality never formed into physical matter, and I helped him attain some awareness, subjectively, of that condition. He could not go far enough into that concept, but he was briefly between physical existences as you know them.

He told his students that he felt as if he were between worlds, and he was. The answer in this case was not given in words, and at first he did not realize that his experience was as much of an answer as he could be given now.

But keep the event in mind. Some questions at times may be answered without words, though he will be able to interpret the answers. This was our first attempt only.

The sense of rather strained neutrality Ruburt feels now before sessions is simply caused by the strangeness of changing coordinates from the ones with which he has been accustomed.

(“It’s just funny,” she said, “going in and going out. It’s like coming down out of trance; it wasn’t like this before. He waits and I find him up there, where before he [meaning Seth] came all the way down to me.”

I … This is through your friend—a message… He says that I cannot tell time, and that you will consider this a flighty statement.

(Pause, eyes open, then closed.) I am not always aware of the you that you feel yourself to be, however. (Pause.) Seth has told me that in some future, in your terms, he would help me in this regard; bringing me closer, he said, for a good look. If so, you should probably know it.

(Jane said that when “he” began talking about “my viewpoint,” she was really “up there” in the pyramid or cone. When I asked the question referring to the stronger Seth voice Jane felt somewhat bothered. The question, the interruption and the sound of my intruding voice, seemed to bother her and bring her down to another level, she said. Not greatly, but she did notice it. Nor do all questions bother her.

Ruburt is intrigued by the extension of his inner senses at this point. He is actually cutting through several systems, but has no freedom to explore them horizontally. (Pause.)

(Any difficulty persisted, she thought, just because of the newness in the sessions. But she did like to hear from Seth each session just to make sure he was still there.

(Jane said that when she speaks for Seth’s entity “it’s like I’m emptying myself out up there someplace,” and that when Seth speaks “he fills me up.” But in the first case she doesn’t know where she goes.

(Same funny manner:) I will take him by the hand and lead him here, figuratively speaking of course. I have told him it would be good for him to extend himself in this direction; and he is quite correct. You will know it if he does.

Understand again that these divisions are arbitrary. We are part—independent portions—of the same personality, he and I. If you have no further questions I will leave you to your domestic quiet. Anytime you want me to liven your sessions up however I will do so. And I will be here often, as a matter of course, in our regular sessions.