“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

A personality is needed or the information would appear highly chaotic, and you would not know how to unscramble it, even if you were able to receive it. This is rather important. We not only give you information and help interpret it or translate it for you, but we also add to it our own experience with it. (Pause.) Your Seth would say we unscramble it for you, and then serve it neatly on a supper platter.

Seth gave him the information in a dream. He was afraid of Seth but not of the information.

Now in your last session Ruburt was given a very primary experience. You asked what it was like to be a personality never formed into physical matter, and I helped him attain some awareness, subjectively, of that condition. He could not go far enough into that concept, but he was briefly between physical existences as you know them.

But keep the event in mind. Some questions at times may be answered without words, though he will be able to interpret the answers. This was our first attempt only.

(9:30. Jane’s eyes stayed closed but she nodded that she was okay to my question, then came out of trance easily enough.

You had signs of its potential strength, but that is all.

Seth as you knew him perceives your own system more clearly. (Pause.) From my viewpoint (pause) I do not perceive your physical universe then as you do. I do perceive your psychic values and emotional intensities, and realize that you perceive but very small segments of these. As you break down the spacious present into moments, which you then experience, so also you break down psychic identity, gestalts, into small self-structures.

(I thought it funny, but not flighty.)

(Jane said that when “he” began talking about “my viewpoint,” she was really “up there” in the pyramid or cone. When I asked the question referring to the stronger Seth voice Jane felt somewhat bothered. The question, the interruption and the sound of my intruding voice, seemed to bother her and bring her down to another level, she said. Not greatly, but she did notice it. Nor do all questions bother her.

I can of course alter coordinates and experience concepts directly, but your system is not one that I have explored with any real attention. (Long pause.)

Ruburt is intrigued by the extension of his inner senses at this point. He is actually cutting through several systems, but has no freedom to explore them horizontally. (Pause.)

(Any difficulty persisted, she thought, just because of the newness in the sessions. But she did like to hear from Seth each session just to make sure he was still there.

(Jane said that when she speaks for Seth’s entity “it’s like I’m emptying myself out up there someplace,” and that when Seth speaks “he fills me up.” But in the first case she doesn’t know where she goes.

—messages this evening. Almost but not quite, you had a dialogue going. Often both of us gave information in some sessions, but I did not believe that you were ready for any deep explanations. This is indeed still the Seth material.

(I also wanted to ask Seth just how we would know the presence of his entity, but did not interrupt since Seth seemed to want to keep speaking.)

Indeed. I am not taking the background seat, you see, but we want Ruburt to learn to extend.

(“Good night, Seth. Nice to hear from you.” 10:43. Jane left trance easily, saying Seth left an emotional feeling behind him. The other personality was gone at once. Jane had forgotten Seth’s data but remembered it when I mentioned it.)