“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Notes: No session was held Monday, 5/13. Today Jane called Tam Mossman of Prentice-Hall, to discuss the prospectus for the Seth book suggested by Prentice-Hall.

(When Jane did begin to speak at 9:11, she used the same high, somewhat distant and quite precise voice as before, the one belonging to what we call, somewhat inaccurately, Seth’s entity. The voice is very clear, without much volume and many pauses, most of them short. One of its oddities is that a sentence often ends on an upbeat note, instead of the voice dropping at the end as is usual. This effect still fools me at times, for a sentence will have ended whereas I think Jane has only paused briefly in the midst of one.

In larger terms knowledge cannot simply be given. It must be experienced. Although you do not find me as warmly personal as the Seth with whom (staring directly at me) you have been acquainted, I am a personality. The information is not coming to you out of nowhere. Knowledge does not exist in those terms.

A personality is needed or the information would appear highly chaotic, and you would not know how to unscramble it, even if you were able to receive it. This is rather important. We not only give you information and help interpret it or translate it for you, but we also add to it our own experience with it. (Pause.) Your Seth would say we unscramble it for you, and then serve it neatly on a supper platter.

Seth gave him the information in a dream. He was afraid of Seth but not of the information.

He is forced in one way to reach further into inner reality, for I do not come as immediately to you as Seth as you knew him did. Since I am not here that immediately, then Ruburt must go further. Seth is always there between us to help in this procedure.

(“It’s just funny,” she said, “going in and going out. It’s like coming down out of trance; it wasn’t like this before. He waits and I find him up there, where before he [meaning Seth] came all the way down to me.”

(“You think of a trance as going deeper. In this it’s all going higher—the voice, the distance, etc. I didn’t get the pyramid tonight. I don’t know when I start. I just start.” Jane said that when the session began she had a tiny hint of first encountering Seth’s personality, and then of going beyond this to the other.

(Her pace had been faster this evening with the new voice, especially toward the break. We thought her between-worlds experience a very good sign, in that the new personality was already beginning to fulfill functions, to add new dimensions to the sessions. Before, we had wondered at the reasons for its appearance for it had seemed that Seth could have given the data as easily.

(“In the voice?” The question was poorly put. I meant the occasionally powerful Seth voice of the past.)

Seth as you knew him perceives your own system more clearly. (Pause.) From my viewpoint (pause) I do not perceive your physical universe then as you do. I do perceive your psychic values and emotional intensities, and realize that you perceive but very small segments of these. As you break down the spacious present into moments, which you then experience, so also you break down psychic identity, gestalts, into small self-structures.

(Pause, eyes open, then closed.) I am not always aware of the you that you feel yourself to be, however. (Pause.) Seth has told me that in some future, in your terms, he would help me in this regard; bringing me closer, he said, for a good look. If so, you should probably know it.

(Jane said that when “he” began talking about “my viewpoint,” she was really “up there” in the pyramid or cone. When I asked the question referring to the stronger Seth voice Jane felt somewhat bothered. The question, the interruption and the sound of my intruding voice, seemed to bother her and bring her down to another level, she said. Not greatly, but she did notice it. Nor do all questions bother her.

This is enough for this evening’s session. (Pause.) Now, you can call upon Seth if you prefer to.

(Jane said she didn’t know how to reach Seth “from that end,” meaning while in trance, although she has done so before. She said she’d have to take a break and get him from “here.”

(Any difficulty persisted, she thought, just because of the newness in the sessions. But she did like to hear from Seth each session just to make sure he was still there.

(Jane said that when she speaks for Seth’s entity “it’s like I’m emptying myself out up there someplace,” and that when Seth speaks “he fills me up.” But in the first case she doesn’t know where she goes.

(Seth then spoke out. I was somewhat surprised, thinking the session had ended. Seth was strong and immediate and vital, eyes open. 10:36.)

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

—messages this evening. Almost but not quite, you had a dialogue going. Often both of us gave information in some sessions, but I did not believe that you were ready for any deep explanations. This is indeed still the Seth material.

(Seth here was very funny and loud and emphatic. Eyes open.

(I also wanted to ask Seth just how we would know the presence of his entity, but did not interrupt since Seth seemed to want to keep speaking.)

(“Good night, Seth. Nice to hear from you.” 10:43. Jane left trance easily, saying Seth left an emotional feeling behind him. The other personality was gone at once. Jane had forgotten Seth’s data but remembered it when I mentioned it.)