“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Translations are therefore necessary, and in many respects the distortions that will appear of necessity in any such translation (pause) are requirements; what might be termed distortion from pure knowledge, you see, is often the result of the translations without which you could not receive nor understand the material.

What you call thinking is a dim shadow of true comprehension. (Pause. Jane lit a cigarette. Her voice, with its distant quality, was not faint however.) This involves being united with knowledge in a way you cannot now appreciate. This kind of comprehension automatically puts you out of self- (hyphen) structures as you think of them, but does not deny identity. Since you are very involved with self-structures as you think of them, then knowledge must be given in such a way that it affects the structure as you know it.

Now you are merged with a concept, now, of what you are. So merged that you cannot see your way clearly out of the concept, nor easily imagine reality from any other viewpoint but the self-structure that you presently imagine yourself to be. (Pause.) Another part of your whole identity is quite aware that you are delving into one concept of yourself. To delve into it, you gladly and willingly momentarily forget the greater portions of yourself. You experience the concept fully. Your prime identity is quite aware of other self-concepts that are also being experienced. (Pause.)

Self-structures and identities are not the same. Identity requires no structure. Identity knows, and knows that it knows. Self-structures know and do not know that they know. Self-structures are a part of identity. Identities can contain pure knowledge without translation, and use it to seed various existences and to form realities. They do this consciously in your terms. They are far more conscious than you can presently imagine.

Seth was all of myself that could come through to you. You are in contact with a larger portion of Seth’s reality. You are learning that self-structures are transparent. Any contradictions are merely the result of interpretations. Your first Seth is independent, and I am independent. (Pause.) Because he is a part of my reality does not mean that he is less an individual. My reality simply includes more, now, within your particular coordinates; and that last is important.

In your terms, I am very ancient, and yet what I am is always new. Your early (smile) Seth can explain this to you more clearly than I.

On the other hand, you are part of what we are. Inspiration always springs from beyond your system, and not within it. It always springs from channels that are available to you, (pause) and if it is, again, distorted, without the distortions, you could not use the inspirations.

These are fitted into your physical space structure, though I am not as aware of it as your first Seth. (Smile.) I speak from a distance. (Pause.) He comes into your room with every reality but the physical.

Even so poor a small fish as I, am not bound by your time, and can be quite aware of what would seem to be future branches and developments that will intimately concern my own identity.

(“They can wait. I just wanted Jane to hear from you tonight so she can get an idea of what’s going on.)

(She said she remembered none of the material until “he” asked if we wanted to hear from Seth. Then she was subjectively aware of the Seth voice and the change in personality, without remembering what Seth said.