“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Jane seemed to speak for this personality, who is still nameless in our terms, quite easily. She used many pauses however, some of them long. Her eyes soon began to open, though they did not remain open for lengthy periods.)

(Pause.) The knowledge that we have, myself and others like me, would be incomprehensible to you in its pure form.

Translations are therefore necessary, and in many respects the distortions that will appear of necessity in any such translation (pause) are requirements; what might be termed distortion from pure knowledge, you see, is often the result of the translations without which you could not receive nor understand the material.

What you call thinking is a dim shadow of true comprehension. (Pause. Jane lit a cigarette. Her voice, with its distant quality, was not faint however.) This involves being united with knowledge in a way you cannot now appreciate. This kind of comprehension automatically puts you out of self- (hyphen) structures as you think of them, but does not deny identity. Since you are very involved with self-structures as you think of them, then knowledge must be given in such a way that it affects the structure as you know it.

Knowledge in your terms does change your own physical structure, merging with the physical stuff of your image, but your ego remains relatively detached from it, you see. (Long pause.) There is a psychic merging with knowledge. To you, knowledge in the abstract means little. There is a merging with concepts, however. This you can understand.

Now you are merged with a concept, now, of what you are. So merged that you cannot see your way clearly out of the concept, nor easily imagine reality from any other viewpoint but the self-structure that you presently imagine yourself to be. (Pause.) Another part of your whole identity is quite aware that you are delving into one concept of yourself. To delve into it, you gladly and willingly momentarily forget the greater portions of yourself. You experience the concept fully. Your prime identity is quite aware of other self-concepts that are also being experienced. (Pause.)

(9:33. Jane paused, eyes closed; then they opened easily, and she was out of trance. This was her easiest transition in some little while. As soon as she left trance she became aware of music playing in the apartment downstairs; before she hadn’t heard this.

(But, definitely, Seth’s voice hadn’t shown itself. When Jane resumed the same distant and gentle, higher voice returned as before. Pauses also, some long. 9:46.)

Seth was all of myself that could come through to you. You are in contact with a larger portion of Seth’s reality. You are learning that self-structures are transparent. Any contradictions are merely the result of interpretations. Your first Seth is independent, and I am independent. (Pause.) Because he is a part of my reality does not mean that he is less an individual. My reality simply includes more, now, within your particular coordinates; and that last is important.

He is another aspect of me while being himself. (Pause.) In your terms, I am a guide he also follows. He is much more aware of our relationship however than you are of your relationship to him. (Pause; well over one minute long.) Your time is required… These communications change me as they change you, for they are action on both of our parts. Your egos are being well educated, since they are aware of the sessions, and this will be of great benefit to you when other coordinates come into your perception.

Here knowledge is sifted through self-structures. (Pause.) Pure knowledge is not impersonal. To the contrary (smile; pause), it is meaningless unless it is (smile; gesture; pause), experienced intimately within every part of an identity. But to you it would seem impersonal.

I seem less of a personality to you than the Seth that you knew, because my personality (pause) exists in quite different terms. (Long pause.) To me, a thought is as real as a day to you. A day that can be experienced in a variety of ways, and that can be viewed from literally endless perspectives. (Pause, over one minute.)

(10:04. Once again Jane’s eyes opened after a pause. She appeared to have left trance as she talked, but then said: “If I came out so good, how come I’m still half under?” As before recently, Jane was partially in trance during break, but felt well. She remembered only the last sentence of the material before break.

(When she resumed she used the same higher and gentle voice, with pauses, etc, as before. 10:21.)

On the other hand, you are part of what we are. Inspiration always springs from beyond your system, and not within it. It always springs from channels that are available to you, (pause) and if it is, again, distorted, without the distortions, you could not use the inspirations.

You have channels open to those various sources that you have forgotten. (Pause.) These provide the motive power that moves your civilizations. These coordinates leave traces within your physical system. There are ways for you to tell when channels are clear. There are ways to open the channels from your end, and we will discuss them. (Pause, over one minute long.)

Now the pyramid or cone structure Ruburt senses is his symbolic way of feeling, in your terms, the approach of certain coordinates. (One minute pause; voice unchanged.) These are projected into your system and opened. Instead of saying, “I will meet you at the corner of Water and Walnut,” for example, I meet you within certain precise coordinates. (Long pause.)

These are fitted into your physical space structure, though I am not as aware of it as your first Seth. (Smile.) I speak from a distance. (Pause.) He comes into your room with every reality but the physical.

Now you may end the session. If you feel lonely you may speak with Seth the earlier, if you wish. (Pause; smile.

(Seth’s delivery was emphatic and quite immediate, with many gestures and no pauses. Jane had made the change from the first more distant personality, into Seth, without difficulty—very smoothly in fact. But I thought it a good idea not to continue this exchange too long.)

I am reassuring. (Smile; pause, eyes closed.) My heartiest wishes to you both then. If you are on a merry-go-round, you may catch the golden ring. (Pause.)

There are mechanics to be worked out. (Pause.) This is new for me also. As soon as we arrive at the most beneficial conditions, I will tell you. (Pause.)

(10:52. After a brief pause with her eyes closed, Jane then came out of trance. She had no aftereffects or fatigue, etc.

(Jane said that when “he” asked for a pause, in our time, while giving the data about coordinates, she thought that Seth might be called in to explain this material to us in our terms. She said she felt that “his” abstract idea behind or beyond the term coordinates, was far removed from our earthly experience.)