“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I am aware of you in many ways through Ruburt’s nervous system. I am aware of you as human forms and physical entities. Through him I am aware of you as material three-dimensional forms. This is almost a secondhanded experience for me, however, and never too clear.

I can be aware of you in some physical ways, as now when Ruburt’s eyes are open. I can see you through Ruburt’s eyes in physical terms. This involves a narrowing of focus on my part, and the use of Ruburt’s nervous system.

Now, in this state I am also close to you, and yet there is a difference. The nervous system control… As you see there are large changes, and we are using our energy in a different manner and I can come through to you in this way myself in a more recognizable fashion.

In the development of this state we can, and of necessity will probably end up with changes in the physical face because it is the memory, the memory (head up briefly, up facing toward the ceiling), of another nervous system that here begins to gain prominence, and it is difficult. The process thus far has never been completed, and in that respect the breakthrough in this area not made.

It would of course involve the transposition of an old nervous system pattern upon Ruburt’s, and using this method the transformation when perfected will be quite startling. (Pause. Head still far down.) Initially all of our energy would be used however in this manner, to make the transposition before any of my own personal characteristics could show in other than physical terms.

Now. The nervous system connections have been largely returned to him. We do not strain them, and in this, one of our most familiar methods, I can make my personality plain to you, without any attempt made for any more severe change such as would follow in the method given earlier.

(Smile.) This is a tricky method, and I can enjoy seeing you in your terms as material entities, for Ruburt’s system is carrying the prominent spot, and I use it.

I will continue for a moment in this state, to tell you about yet another method, the one that is used in Ruburt’s projections from a session. In this case I keep his physical system going while training him to describe what he has seen in his projections. This present state is challenging to Ruburt, for he can feel the interplay between us in a way not possible in the other states.